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Lowe's CEO sees no end to plywood price increases (FREEPER HELP NEEDED)
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Posted on 04/06/2004 7:33:09 AM PDT by The G Man

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To: Arthalion
YARKS!

Our home's main structure dates to the early 1920's and was moved to it's present location in the 1940's. REAL 2x4's, wallboard that bends nails, and a structure that's survived more than a few hurricanes(Claudette in July was our 1st real one here).

81 posted on 04/07/2004 6:03:17 AM PDT by Johnny Crab
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To: Arthalion
YARKS!

Our home's main structure dates to the early 1920's and was moved to it's present location in the 1940's. REAL 2x4's, wallboard that bends nails, and a structure that's survived more than a few hurricanes(Claudette in July was our 1st real one here).

82 posted on 04/07/2004 6:03:18 AM PDT by Johnny Crab
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To: dljordan
I've always been fascinated with COB and Rammed Earth homes. I think I like the Rammed Earth better. They mix the earth with cement and compacted it using air-powered tampers. The stuff is thick and strong, kind of like a bunker. I like that idea.

Cob is a mixture of sand, clay, water, and straw. When it dries, it becomes extremely hard and compact (it "shrinks") if mixed properly. While rammed earth is stronger, Cob is pretty tough, and much easier to build with, requiring no tamping. It's much cheaper, too, requiring no cement.

83 posted on 04/07/2004 6:16:19 AM PDT by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
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To: wolicy_ponk; The G Man
Hi Wolicy_ponk, I'm in TN also (East TN).

I think you have valid concerns. I didn't notice the thickness of the material on my quick look at the spec sheet. That's pretty dang thin.

At the least, the house contractor should use 7/16 OSB at all the corners of the house. I've also seen people use angled metal strapping nailed to the studs as a wind bracing when using styrene board, etc., perhaps that could be used in addition.

Those that point out the issues with having vinyl siding on the ground floor in conjuction with this board have a point also. A hole in the wall big enough to climb through could be made in a few minutes with a pocket knife and a swift kick.

Fletcher J
84 posted on 04/07/2004 6:26:52 AM PDT by Fletcher J
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To: decimon
Interesting. Looks like Cob has the potential to address many problems while saving on costs.

For the life of me, I simply cannot understand modern America. People pay $400K-$500K in the area I live in in Maryland (commutable to DC) for a McMansion made of sawdust and glue that won't last more than 50 years. The are perfectly happy paying someone else to build a house for them and then spending the rest of their lives as debt slaves to what is essentially a piece of junk that cracks and pops in a 20 mph wind.

Cob homes can be built by just about anyone if you start small. The building techniques are simple, the material is free. People are building nice homes using recycled materials for fixtures, etc., and often getting away with $10K or less in the building. Most get a finished product with no mortgage that will last hundreds of years. There are Cob houses in Ireland and Wales that are hundreds of years old, some more than a thousand, that have been exposed to the worst of driving rains. The thermal mass of these homes often ensures a constant indoor temp in the 60's. A fireplace or woodstove for the coldest winter days is usually all that is required. The secret is to be patient, build it yourself.

But, alas, it is not to be. Most people would rather have a sawdust and plastic heap with 0 thermal mass that requires thousands in fire insurance, interest, utility bills, repairs and reconstruction, and principle repayments. I say no thanks. I'm planning my cob house now and should be in - mortgage-free - by 2005.

85 posted on 04/07/2004 6:33:46 AM PDT by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
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To: Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
We need to plant more plywood trees!
86 posted on 04/07/2004 6:43:45 AM PDT by phil1750 (Love like you've never been hurt;Dance like nobody's watching;PRAY like it's your last prayer)
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We need to plant more plywood trees!

Knock yourself out. My house will be cob with a steel roof. Whether or not more plywood trees get planted is irrelevent to me.

87 posted on 04/07/2004 7:25:28 AM PDT by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
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