JOBS: KERRY TELLS ANOTHER WHOPPER, 6,300 manufacturing jobs in 2002 in 1 state!

The Biz Journal ^ | 7/19/02

[GailA]

"We now hear the administration claiming success," said Kerry, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee. "There is not a single month of this administration that has seen the creation of a single manufacturing job." AP 4/3/04

Google just proved hanoi john is telling another of his LIES about Dubya.

Biz Journal July 19, 2002

There was an increase of 25,700 jobs between May and June, with 6,300 coming in the manufacturing sector. Over the past 18 months there have been only five months when the job totals for manufacturing increased over the prior month. The number of jobs in construction, trade and services also increased.

Also turned up this tid bit there is a CHART in the article click on link Tax Foundation job losses

December 8, 2003

Compared to Other Nations, U.S. Manufacturing Job Losses Modest:

Most Industrial Nations Have Witnessed Greater Job Losses

By John Tatom Ph.D., Senior Visiting Fellow*

Since July 2000, the U.S. economy has seen manufacturing employment fall from 17.3 million to 14.5 million as of October of this year – a loss of 2.8 million jobs. Many observers fear that these jobs have been "shipped overseas" and call for various policies to support the U.S. manufacturing base.

Despite news accounts of U.S. firms "outsourcing" jobs overseas, the data shows that the decline in US manufacturing employment generally has not been accompanied by faster employment growth abroad. Indeed, it appears that the manufacturing sector – both here and abroad – is undergoing the same phenomenon: rapid growth in productivity is delivering rapid growth in output with fewer people employed in manufacturing.

In the U.S., manufacturing employment peaked in June 1979. Since then, manufacturing jobs have declined by 21.8 percent. While considerable, this is actually smaller than the drop in manufacturing jobs that has occurred in most other countries since their peak levels. The table below shows the year in which manufacturing employment peaked in 16 other industrialized countries and the size of the employment declines since that peak.

The data shows that 12 of these countries, including France, Germany and Japan, have witnessed larger declines in their manufacturing industries. Even South Korea and Taiwan have seen manufacturing jobs decline from their peaks in the late-1980s.

Two OECD countries, Canada and Ireland (not shown below), have enjoyed small manufacturing job gains recently. Canadian manufacturing employment was just 5 percent higher in 2002 than at an earlier peak level. In Ireland, employment was only 4.5 percent higher in 2002 than it had been in 1980, an earlier peak that was not exceeded until 1997.

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[wagglebee]

Maybe Heinz can send some more jobs overseas to offset it. Then again, drilling in ANWR will create plenty of jobs and bring down energy costs.

[OneTimeLurker]

I (either read in WSJ or saw on CNBC yesterday) that this month was the first month since the recession that manufacturing jobs have not been lost. They stayed the same but did not increase.

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[Destro]

Heinz does not outsource jobs overseas. Outsourcing is when something is manufactured overseas that used to be made here and then imported back to America. Heinz is in the food business - food business needs to be local to produce and sell. When ever I see an ignorant statement about Heinz I understand why Americans have no clue about the destruction of their manufacturing base.

[groanup]

"Heinz does not outsource jobs overseas"

Better look that one up again.

[wagglebee]

Actually almost three-quarters of Heinz factories are overseas (mainly in Asia), and unless I missed something, you don't need to produce ketchup and mustard locally (and you don't see much of it is Chinese cooking, so I doubt they use much of it there). Here is a link to a story:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/2/25/173955.shtml

[Smartass]

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[CROSSHIGHWAYMAN]

I'm sure getting tired of this long-faced blow-hard railing about jobs!

During the late 1990s, hundreds of thousands of non-productive jobs were added willy-nilly at as frantic a pace as the technology bubble was inflating.

When the bubble burst, those speculative jobs vanished as rapidly as the do-nothing companies at which they were counted.

Bottom line is that there were too many speculative jobs and the equilibrium has come back to normal.

More manufacturing jobs were lost during the Clinton years than during Bush's tenure.

Manufacturing jobs have been hemmoraging at a steady pace in the USA for 40 years.

The same people looking for work in 2004 were looking for work in 2000.

Those who lost their jobs when the bubble burst have found other employment.

There are more people at work now than in 2000.

More people own their own homes and net wealth per family is at record levels.

Last I looked, nobody was starving out there.

If anything, too many people have it too soft and the obesity problem has ballooned.

[Destro]

Newsmax chose to play with the facts to score political points - they are wrong and you are wrong:

Heinz Company Does Not Outsource - Those who say so don't know what outsourcing means

[Wil H]

Why?

Did you not read the explanation?

Making Far East market products here and then shipping them to the pacific rim would make as much sense as making all New England Clam Chowder in San Diego and sending it by rail to Boston.

If you have a global business making different products for different markets it makes sense, especially in the food industry, to create the products close to their markets.

[Destro]

You are correct. Manufacturing jobs have been going at this pace (emphasis "at this pace") since NAFTA.

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[cookcounty]

As a percentage of the whole, people want less and less of "things" and more and more of "services." It's only natural that the service sector grows faster ---it's what the people want.

[cookcounty]

Heinz aside, Kerry outsourced his campaign call center work and is perhaps the first politician to ever outsource one of his houses, having it built outside the US and importing the parts.

[Destro]

See that is a fgood point! Awesome! Bringing up Heinz is stupid because it is factually incorrect as an argument of outsourcing. High-five, hommes.

[altura]

The stupid one is Kerry for making such a big deal about American companies with plants overseas. The Benedict Arnold crap.

Outsourcing, insourcing, he still looks stupid when it's revealed that Heinz has so many overseas plants.

Heinz is probably okay. JohnEffing puts foot in mouth once again.

[Wil H]

Correct,

Kerry is a moron.

Other Countries outsource more jobs here (about 6,000,000) than we outsource to other countries so the practice is a net GAIN for the US economy.