[Bush2000]

Read it and weep. Time to retool and polish your resume, Harr.

[Bogey78O]

There was one site I know that started on asp then switched to jsp.

When they had asp their reliability was iffy. But it was clean. When they went to jsp they left huge holes open in their security and I found a way to change around posts and re-edit text on their pages without any special privileges.

[explodingspleen]

Ooh... NetCraft...

The site www.freerepublic.com is running Apache on Linux.

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.freerepublic.com

[hotdogjones]

Serious flaw in netcraft's survey JSP/ASP.NET

According the this survey ASP.NET Overtakes JSP and Java Servlets.
Asp.Net has overtaken java. Regardless of whether it has or has not, its statistics are majorly flawed, in that the following criteria is used to determine if the site is running java. ..>

The figures are based on the following signatures:

* ASP.NET - local references to ASP.NET file extensions are found on the front page of the site.
* Java Servlets - local references to .jhtml, .jsp, .gsp file extensions, or a local url starting "/servlets".

Making a news annoucement like this is not responsible.
There are plenty of servlets that don't start with /servlets. In addition, as web frameworks have gotten popular in the last couple of years, you have to include (.do, /do, .vm,.m .action, .ftl, ... AND many others).

[VOA]

bump

[Fledermaus]

You might as well have posted "Martians take over"...what the hell does all this crap mean to us average users?

When are the computer geeks going to realize that the VAST majority of users just want to turn the damn thing on and use it without knowing if they need Java, blah blah, this patch, that patch, etc?

Do you fix your own car? I doubt it. So do you care if they come up with a new steering wheel column idea that could change everything? No. You just want to drive down the street.

This is the reason less than half of homes in the US have computers. It's still dominated by programmers that think everyone understands it all.

And I'm not stupid. I've been using computers in business for 20 years and I get so sick and tired of things changing I don't understand. Heck, you can't even figure out how to format a simple Word document these days with 5 billion little icon buttons.

What ever happened to just opening a sheet, typing your stuff, saving it and printing it? Now it's all pre-formatted and it takes rocket scientist to show you how to change those formats. And then every other year it's changed and the menus and formulas are different.

It's getting too confusing, not the easy which is what we were promised. I can't even begin to understand PhotoShop and I'm dying to make those funny pictures! Even the "help" files are in a language I don't understand.

As little as 10 years ago I was running a 500 room, 5 star hotel with a Compaq - burnt green screen, no memory or storage and large tract green bar printers. It's gotten better but more difficult to use. I miss some of the simplicity of those days.

The company that takes Windows and makes it as easy to use as wiping your butt will become immensly rich. I can't get my parents or my mother-in-law to even use a computer because they can't figure out a VCR.

[Glenn]

In the Fortune 1000 83 companies use ASP.NET on one or more of their sites.

0.012?

That's nothing.

[InterceptPoint]

As I predicted about a year ago, .NET will dominate the marketplace and Java is doomed if not dead.

Microsoft's .NET is write once and run once but in almost any language you like. I happen to like C# but there are a lot of VB fans out there. In my opinion .NET is just better than Java in part because it has a target hardware platform (as opposed to the Sun write once debug everywhere strategy for Java) but also because Microsoft obviously learned a lot from studying the good, bad and ugly of Java. I built a very sophisticated .aspx website as my learning exercise for ASP.NET and C# and I have shelved my Java stuff for ever.

[dfwgator]

Actually to be viable in the market, one better know Java and .Net. More and more shops are using both, .Net for the front end, and Java on the back-end. It is much easier to create web pages using .NET. The problem with Java is that there are so many different frameworks out there to choose from that it is difficult for a developer to go from one client to another.

However, where Java makes more sense is on the back-end where tying together disparate computers and applications on a network.

The big word in the future is "Interoperability"; bigots on either side of of .Net/Java fence better wise up.

[HAL9000]

I'm just thankful I don't have to use .NET or any other Microsoft thing.

If the label says Microsoft, it's low-quality dog crap.