Netcraft: ASP.NET Overtakes JSP and Java Servlets

Netcraft ^ | March 23, 2004 | Netcraft

[Bush2000]

Netcraft: ASP.NET Overtakes JSP and Java Servlets

In this month's Web Server Survey the number of IP addresses with sites using ASP.NET has overtaken those using JSP and Java Servlets. The number of IP addresses found with ASP.NET has shown very strong growth in the past year with a 224% increase from 17.2K to 55.8K. JSP & Java Servlets despite being overtaken is the next fastest growing in percentage terms with a 56% increase.



In the Fortune 1000 83 companies use ASP.NET on one or more of their sites. We found Tenet Healthcare having at least 88 sites which utilise ASP.NET. Other large enterprises utilising ASP.NET include American Electric Power, J C Penny, American Express, British Telecom, Nestle and Tesco.

The figures are based on the following signatures:

ASP.NET - local references to ASP.NET file extensions are found on the front page of the site.

Java Servlets - local references to .jhtml, .jsp, .gsp file extensions, or a local url starting "/servlets".

[Bush2000]

Read it and weep. Time to retool and polish your resume, Harr.

[Bush2000]

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[old-ager]

hahahahahahahahaha! Is he still here?

[Bogey78O]

There was one site I know that started on asp then switched to jsp.

When they had asp their reliability was iffy. But it was clean. When they went to jsp they left huge holes open in their security and I found a way to change around posts and re-edit text on their pages without any special privileges.

[explodingspleen]

Ooh... NetCraft...

The site www.freerepublic.com is running Apache on Linux.

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.freerepublic.com

[Bush2000]

The site www.freerepublic.com is running Apache on Linux.

I wouldn't exactly boast about FR running on open source tools. The responsiveness is pretty bad, it's had all kind of index corruption problems, and it falls over under any kind of serious load.

[rivercat]

Yep. My company, a major bank, is rapidly switching all of our Java based sites to ASP.NET. In fact, we already set an end-of-life date for all of our Sun boxes. We evaluated Apache/Linux and found the administrative costs were higher than on the Wintel platform. We've found that hardware/software costs are lower with .NET, and our programmer productivity has increased significantly.

[hotdogjones]

If you are in the DC doing government work. Most of the work is in JSP/Servlets/Struts for websites. They are not going away anytime soon. We are in J2EE country.

[hotdogjones]

Serious flaw in netcraft's survey JSP/ASP.NET

According the this survey ASP.NET Overtakes JSP and Java Servlets.
Asp.Net has overtaken java. Regardless of whether it has or has not, its statistics are majorly flawed, in that the following criteria is used to determine if the site is running java. ..>

The figures are based on the following signatures:

* ASP.NET - local references to ASP.NET file extensions are found on the front page of the site.
* Java Servlets - local references to .jhtml, .jsp, .gsp file extensions, or a local url starting "/servlets".

Making a news annoucement like this is not responsible.
There are plenty of servlets that don't start with /servlets. In addition, as web frameworks have gotten popular in the last couple of years, you have to include (.do, /do, .vm,.m .action, .ftl, ... AND many others).

[lelio]

There are plenty of servlets that don't start with /servlets.

I went to java.net, clicked on a story and got https://www.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectList?type=Projects&mode=TopLevel . How does that could in this story?

Plus this kind of stuff is pointless anyway as a) it misses probably 50% of the java / MS sites out there and b) it only reports on what's on the very first layer of a website. Maybe you have a .jsp page that talks to some SQL server.

Its like publishing a paper that Kohler's the most popular faucet as 80% of homes have Schlage key lock on the front door versus Medeco.

[lelio]

How does that could in this story?

Sheesh, I should remember to start FR before my 4th drink and not after the 8th. "How would that count in this story"?

[VOA]

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[Robert_Paulson2]

indeed.
more ms propaganda
even the majority of ms certifieds up here in the nw (that I know) are dropping aspnet, like a hot rock wherever they can.

this is laughable... if not desperate on ms's part.

rofl

[AmericanVictory]

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[glorgau]

Read it and weep. Time to retool and polish your resume, Harr.

Hmmmm, they didn't put the number of php web sites on there. The chart would have to have been a logarithmic scale. The other technologies would not have even come close.

[CasearianDaoist]

But php will not work for large transactional sites. That is the market they are talking about.

I am thoroughly agnostic as I have architected in both. I do think that java as a language is here to stay due to the gradual emergence of Grid computing. That approach is just coming to the fore but will pick up steam in the rest of the decade. While Java will be there is the need to do realtime migration of processes/threads across machine boundaries and using the JVM to do so is becoming a common technique. Right now they use the built in debugging hooks but look for the Java community to build services into the JVM that handled this in and elegant way.

That being said, as web services become more and more common then is will not really matter what technologies underpin the services. Many production systems will be an amalgam of services "rented" from middle tier vendors. It will be quality, predictability, security and speed. That wins the day and buyers will manage through SLAs. They will not care about the technology below those SLAs.

[wireplay]

You're joking? Right!?!

ASP.NET is a very hot technology. Go to monster and see how many postings there are for asp.net (and jsp if you like).

Sorry but .NET rocks. You can call it Microsoft propaganda all you like but the truth hurts: .NET is far superior to Java in just about every way.

Time to get back to coding...

[Dominic Harr]

I will say that .net certainly has been beating java in the propaganda war for several years!

.net gets your whites whiter! your brights brighter! it'll even make julian fries!

But that's not all . . . if you order in the next 15 minuts . . .

Hey, for some people that kind of stuff is persuasive. What ever floats your boat. .net, Java, it's all flavors. I like mine, you like yours. .net will have a future, because marketing does work. Will it dominate? Will it live up to the promises? That remains to be seen.

Java is the right solution for the problems facing me.

But YMMV.

[wireplay]

java will certainly rule the world on proprietary unix machines and mainframes for a long time. I think the mono project has a chance for steam on linux.

web services are the great neutralizer. The issue will really be the continued growth of Windows servers into the enterprise environment.

.NET, plain and simple, is just a much newer and better architected platform. Microsoft knows software and software development better than anybody else out there and .NET shows a high degree of sanity and useability. The numbers support this improved performance and reduced code base. It will be hard for coders (like myself) to justify the extra effort needed to develop commercial products if it takes so much more time in Java and runs very poorly.