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Bush's Unemployment Rate Nearly Identical to Clinton's Reelection Bid in 1996
Mensnewsdaily.com ^ | 19 March 2005 | Jimmy Moore

Posted on 03/22/2004 1:55:12 PM PST by shrinkermd

Jobless claims have fallen to their lowest level in more than three years, according to numbers released by the Labor Department on Thursday.

Americans requesting unemployment benefits dropped to 336,000 last week, the lowest level since January 13, 2001. This was less than a week before President George W. Bush took office.

The job market has continued to show signs of improvement with three straight weeks of decline in jobless claims, despite projections of increases.

Talon News reported on Wednesday that a new Manpower survey found nearly one-third of American companies will be hiring new employees in the second quarter to meet the demand for goods and services by the American consumer.

This is the third quarter in a row that hiring projections have increased. In fact, more than 366,000 new jobs have been added to the American workforce over the past six months and the survey found that jobs will continue to be created over the next six months.

Manpower concluded this is the most anticipated quarter for job growth since the first quarter of 2001.

Also, jobless claims are about 10 percent below the average of the last 25 years and have continued to fall.

This is not good news for likely Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John F. Kerry (D-MA) who has attempted to use the issue of jobs as the centerpiece of his campaign to defeat Bush.

Meanwhile, Bush is confident that new jobs will be added to the economy because of his effective economic policies, including the tax cuts he got passed through Congress.

Although Kerry has blamed what he describes as "tax cuts for the rich" on the unemployment rate, joblessness has steadily fallen nearly one full percentage point in less than a year with the rate continuing to drop.

Unemployment has fallen from a high of 6.4 percent in June 2003 to 5.6 percent in February 2004.

The current unemployment rate is nearly identical to what former President Bill Clinton had when he ran for reelection in 1996. Unemployment stood at 5.5 percent in February 1996.

Actually, the 5.6 unemployment rate is lower than the 7.3 percent average in the 1980s and the 5.8 percent average in the 1990s.

Interestingly, the number of Americans in the workforce has now reached a record-shattering 138.5 million, the most ever in the history of the U.S.

Economic analysts have been surprised by the prospects for unemployment to continue to fall and predict that jobs will continue to be created for the remainder of 2004.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1996; 2004; gwb2004; jobs; unemployment; x42
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For comparison to the lamestream media now and in 1996 look at how CNN reported 5.6% unemployment in 1996 by going here: http://www.cnn.com/US/9607/05/jobless/ and reading CNN Interactive.
1 posted on 03/22/2004 1:55:13 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd
Clinton did not have a "911" to contend with. I for one am very impressed by the come-back of our nation.
2 posted on 03/22/2004 1:59:10 PM PST by EggsAckley (....."I see the idiot is here"............)
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To: shrinkermd
That is funny, but did you also see where Clinton's opponent in 96, Bob Dole, wasn't impressed with the numbers?

Dole camp unimpressed Despite the fact that the United States is now in the third-longest peace-time expansion in history, the campaign staff of Republican presidential candidate Bob Dole said the jobs numbers probably would not help Clinton's campaign that much.

Republicans say a slow-growth economy has made workers anxious, and 20 percent of new jobs have gone to people taking a second job to pay their bills.

So who was right in 96? Was 5.6 good or not?

3 posted on 03/22/2004 2:01:58 PM PST by Seth1 (Stop plate tectonics!!!)
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To: EggsAckley
Maybe someone who is good at that sort of thing could find out what top economists were predicting after 9/11. If I remember correctly no one even hoped that the economy would be this good after only 2 1/2 years. I seem to recall dire predictions.
4 posted on 03/22/2004 2:03:07 PM PST by KJacob
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To: shrinkermd
Interestingly, the number of Americans in the workforce has now reached a record-shattering 138.5 million, the most ever in the history of the U.S.

Hmmmm, it is remarkable how little this -- historical record jobs in the USA under W -- has been mentioned amid all the 'negative, hostile, nasty' DemoKerry snarls about 'record job losses'. Perhaps the White House could urge this on to all its friends in the lamestream press ....

5 posted on 03/22/2004 2:10:37 PM PST by dodger
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To: shrinkermd
Interestingly, the number of Americans in the workforce has now reached a record-shattering 138.5 million, the most ever in the history of the U.S.

Hmmmm, it is remarkable how little this -- historical record jobs in the USA under W -- has been mentioned amid all the 'negative, hostile, nasty' DemoKerry snarls about 'record job losses'. Perhaps the White House could urge this on to all its friends in the lamestream press ....

6 posted on 03/22/2004 2:11:27 PM PST by dodger
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To: shrinkermd
I guess 5.6% seems a lot better if you start with 7.3% than if you start with 4.2%.
7 posted on 03/22/2004 2:16:15 PM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: dodger
I wouldn't really classify 138.5 million as "record shattering" when there were 137.8 million when he took office. That's only a net increase of 776,000. For comparison, during the same period of their presidencies, Clinton had 6 million, Bush I had 1.27 million, and Reagan had 3.2 million.

BTW, that 138.5 million of Bush's is now 138.3.
8 posted on 03/22/2004 2:36:58 PM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: shrinkermd
comparison to the lamestream media now and in 1996 look at how CNN reported 5.6% unemployment in 1996...

The fact that bush-bashers have decided that 5.6 in '96 is lower than 5.6 now, is not surprising.   The number of people working doesn't matter to a Kerry or Buchanan fan.  Likewise, it won't matter how many people are out of work if they get their way.

The part I can't figure out is why they stop at saying 3 million jobs are lost.  Why don't they say 30 million, or 300 million?

9 posted on 03/22/2004 3:56:59 PM PST by expat_panama
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I wouldn't really classify 138.5 million as "record shattering" when there were 137.8 million when he took office.

Household survey says about 136.9 million jobs when he took office. Not the figure you gave.

10 posted on 03/22/2004 5:22:15 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Your Nightmare
I wouldn't really classify 138.5 million as "record shattering" when there were 137.8 million when he took office.

Household survey says about 136.9 million jobs when he took office. Not the figure you gave.

11 posted on 03/22/2004 5:22:50 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Your Nightmare
I guess 5.6% seems a lot better if you start with 7.3% than if you start with 4.2%.

But what is the theoritical (natural) minimum? Isn't it around 3.5%? Wouldn't that then make 4.2% extremely low and hard to sustain?

-PJ

12 posted on 03/22/2004 5:25:46 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: Your Nightmare
I guess 5.6% seems a lot better if you start with 7.3% than if you start with 4.2%.

Exactly! That's the context behind the numbers that always seems to get left out for some reason. Clinton had no problem claiming a growing job base because the long-term numbers supported him. Bush will have a tougher job than Clinton did, even though the absolute unemployment number is the same now as it was in '96. Though unemployment has been coming down for the past few months, the Democrats are going to make the comparison to the 2000 numbers, when Bush took office. Whichever side makes the more compelling argument (Dems-long term decline vs. GOP-short term improvement & turning around) probably wins the election.

13 posted on 03/22/2004 6:09:40 PM PST by BlackRazor
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To: Your Nightmare
I wouldn't really classify 138.5 million as "record shattering" when there were 137.8 million when he took office.

Nice try, but it seems 138.5M is record employment even if 'shattery' is rather subjective.

Now, do tell why you would yelp as if MORE JOBS and the SAME UNEMPLOYMENT RATE with W & Beelzebubba is a bad thing. Do you wish to cover for the DemoKerrys whilst they screech about 'record job losses'?

What's Your NIGHTMARISH angle??

14 posted on 03/22/2004 7:25:29 PM PST by dodger
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To: shrinkermd
Sluggish Economy.

Bad Economic News.

Recession.

Poor Economy.

...

Things heard on Liberal Media during Republican administrations, contrary to facts.
15 posted on 03/23/2004 3:07:03 AM PST by Enduring Freedom (Guess How We Ended Japanese Kamikaze Attacks?)
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To: Enduring Freedom
And don't forget "jobless-recovery".

I keep thinking that we're beginning to see a shift from employment to inflation as the proof of miserable failure. But now it seems that even when employment goes below 5 percent and the expansion slows because of a labor shortage, the bush-bashers will still be belly-aching for more welfare and protection.

The craving for government assistance has no limits.

16 posted on 03/23/2004 3:22:10 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: FreeReign
I used the seasonally adjusted Employment Level data from the BLS. I used this data because it matched the 138.5 million the article used. What numbers are you using? And what do your numbers say was the employment level in Jan 2001 and current?


Series Id:           LNS12000000
Seasonal Adjusted
Series title:        (Seas) Employment Level
Labor force status:  Employed
Type of data:        Number in thousands
Age:                 16 years and over
Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
1992 117978 117753 118144 118426 118375 118419 118713 118826 118720 118628 118876 118997  
1993 119075 119275 119542 119474 120115 120290 120467 120856 120554 120823 121169 121464  
1994 121966 122086 121930 122290 122864 122634 122706 123342 123687 124112 124516 124721  
1995 124663 124928 124955 124945 124421 124522 124816 124852 125133 125388 125188 125088  
1996 125125 125639 125862 125994 126244 126602 126947 127172 127536 127890 127771 127860  
1997 128298 128298 128891 129143 129464 129412 129822 130010 130019 130179 130653 130679  
1998 130726 130807 130814 131209 131325 131244 131329 131390 131986 131999 132280 132602  
1999 133027 132856 132947 132955 133311 133378 133414 133591 133707 133993 134309 134523  
2000 136561(1) 136599 136668 137264 136611 136923 136516 136701 136908 137124 137316 137632  
2001 137790 137581 137738 137275 137063 136842 137091 136314 136869 136447 136234 136078  
2002 135715 136362 136106 136096 136505 136353 136478 136811 137337 137079 136545 136459  
2003 137447(1) 137318 137300 137578 137505 137673 137604 137693 137644 138095 138533 138479  
2004 138566(1) 138301                      
1 : Data affected by changes in population controls in January 2000, January 2003 and January 2004.

17 posted on 03/23/2004 4:54:27 AM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: dodger
You do understand about the expansion of the workforce, right? There hasn't be a president in the last 50 years that hasn't "shattered" records for employment levels. It's a given that every president will have more people employed under his presidency. That's why we use the unemployment rate to gage what the employment situation is in the country.
18 posted on 03/23/2004 5:28:18 AM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: Your Nightmare
Another nice try.

Yes, I do understand what are properly called secular trends in the work force and, more critically, their statistical foundations. However, you would do well to lecture the DemoKerrys as to their fetish for claiming 'record job losses under Bush' in that they refer to absolute numbers rather than rates. Yet you seem to endorse their wingeing him by one standard and absolving themselves by another -- more liberal, of course -- standard.

You do understand about comparing 'apples to apples', right?

19 posted on 03/23/2004 4:00:19 PM PST by dodger
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You're going to have to point out where I endorsed the Dems "wingeing" Bush by one standard and absolving themselves by another.

And you didn't address my point. Am I to assume you can't?

You have an appropriate nickname.
20 posted on 03/23/2004 7:23:23 PM PST by Your Nightmare
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