To: NZerFromHK
I've posted this before and will post again - SPAIN SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO SENT THEIR TOKEN FORCE TO IRAQ!! Al Queda was given an easy means to exploit against Spain and for what? So Bush and Powell could have a talking point? Good going guys! Now we've lost a staunch ally in the WOT
3 posted on
03/15/2004 2:29:46 AM PST by
KantianBurke
(Arguments that got Arnold elected in 02, will get a "moderate" RINO elected to the White House in 08)
To: KantianBurke
"I've posted this before and will post again - SPAIN SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO SENT THEIR TOKEN FORCE TO IRAQ!! Al Queda was given an easy means to exploit against Spain and for what? So Bush and Powell could have a talking point? Good going guys! Now we've lost a staunch ally in the WOT"
The terrorists attacked civilians and not the Spanish military. Even if the military was not there and Spain gave a words of support this would have still happened.
To: KantianBurke
I've posted this before and will post again - SPAIN SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO SENT THEIR TOKEN FORCE TO IRAQ!! Al Queda was given an easy means to exploit against Spain and for what? So Bush and Powell could have a talking point? Good going guys! Now we've lost a staunch ally in the WOTThat is the silliest argument I have ever heard, and the fact that you have posted it before doesn't make it any less silly.
You are saying that the bombing in Spain is Bush's fault, a concious decision to put civilians at risk so our government could have a talking point. How many soldiers should be the minimum we "let" someone send? If we had used Turkey to deploy troops from, would the argument have been the same? Should we now reject any help Pakistan offers since they aren't cooperating enough to suit you?
Terrorists kill people because that is what they do. They are evil, and running from them doesn't fix it. They are the bad guys, not us. They must be stopped by force, and anyone who is willing to participate in that effort should be encouraged to do so.
It is a terrible thing that happened to Spain, but your blame is badly misplaced.
To: KantianBurke
Stop spamming every article with the same inane Buchananite sh!t.
The Spanish people were never staunch allies and you damn well know it.
18 posted on
03/15/2004 2:57:40 AM PST by
metesky
("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
To: KantianBurke
"SPAIN SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO SENT THEIR TOKEN FORCE TO IRAQ!! Al Queda was given an easy means to exploit against Spain and for what?"
So you only want allies that can't/won't fight?
To: KantianBurke
I've posted this before and will post again - SPAIN SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO SENT THEIR TOKEN FORCE TO IRAQ!! Al Queda was given an easy means to exploit against Spain and for what? So Bush and Powell could have a talking point? Good going guys! Now we've lost a staunch ally in the WOT Yeah I know you will post it over and over again since you are Buchannite Bush hater.
Did it ever occur to you that Anzar thought he was doing the right thing in fighting terror and damn the consequences.
He didn't want to go the appeasment route promoted by socialists and Buchananites.
23 posted on
03/15/2004 3:00:45 AM PST by
Dane
To: KantianBurke
"I've posted this before and will post again - SPAIN SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO SENT THEIR TOKEN FORCE TO IRAQ!! Al Queda was given an easy means to exploit against Spain and for what? So Bush and Powell could have a talking point? Good going guys! Now we've lost a staunch ally in the WOT"Get a grip, your own blind hatred is showing
30 posted on
03/15/2004 3:06:14 AM PST by
MJY1288
(Can't Blame Bush for Negative Ad's, When There's Nothing Positive To Say About John Kerry)
To: KantianBurke
How are they a staunch ally? It seems that this is patently
not the case. If they did not commit resources how else were they to help us? And if they helped us some other way why would they not be attacked?
The truth is that the propaganda machine of the left in the EU has no competitors - this is how socialism has maintianed its grip in Europe for 50 years. There has been a constant shrieking of anti-american propaganda for 3 years. If you throw on to of that the immense panic among the "Euro superstatists" and the pressure France is putting on Spain, Italy, the UK and Poland, is this out come really beyond expectations? There is an overwhelming desire among the leftist elites to see the US fail at anything it does. They quite literally want to replace us.
It is unfortunate but not unexpected. It may be that Aznar catered too much to the left the last year rather than adamantly stood his ground - he may have some resonsiblity for his party's defeat, don't you think? He handed the media battle for what little "swing votes" there was over to the left. And how was Spain's involvement in Iraq a "talking point," was not it necessary to try to "contain" to French? Why do you assume that because their contribution was not crucial in a tactical sense it did not play a role in the strategic sense, particularly in exposing the lie that France spoke for Europe? And are you implying that Axnar is not an independent actor here steering as best he could a course for his own nation?
Why is this event so earth shattering? It was almost certain that the left would make some gains somewhere in the EU after Iraq. It is hardly a landslide. Will it really save the SDS in Germany?
Sounds like your support for the President and this war is a tepid as the Spaniards.
To: KantianBurke
Now we've lost a staunch ally in the WOT You have been spamming threads with your anti-iraq-war, anti-bush bs for days now. WTF do you mean, "staunch" ally? Staunch, as in with a yellow stripe a la "libertarian"?
To: KantianBurke
The entire world DEMANDED we have a coalition.
A coalition is the rallying cry of Kerry and the socialists.
The Spanish socialists will leave their troops in IF there is a UN mandate to do so.
Bush and the administration did not *a;;ow* anyone to go into Iraq. They asked. Spain responded.
It isn't *Spain*. It is the difference between realists (conservatives) and socialists.
To: KantianBurke
It is always Bush's fault with you, isn't it!
Do you take medication to maintain that whine, or is it inbred?
99 posted on
03/15/2004 4:30:59 AM PST by
Redleg Duke
(Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
To: KantianBurke
Prize for stupidest remark I've ever read from you (and there have been several). Your hatred of Bush makes me want to call over and reserve a spot at DU for you. You'd be more at home....
Prairie
134 posted on
03/15/2004 6:25:11 AM PST by
prairiebreeze
(America will CONTINUE to fight for and defend freedom. Even Spain's.)
To: KantianBurke
Now we've lost a staunch ally in the WOT Laughable
I've posted this before and will post again
Please spare us
172 posted on
03/15/2004 9:38:24 AM PST by
paul51
To: KantianBurke
Let me see if I understand this.
Your saying Spain was a staunch ally to the U.S. in the WOT,as long as they were not allowed to help fight the WOT but since we used them to help fight the WOT, we have made them a target of terrorists, so they can't be our ally anymore in the WOT.
That about cover it?
232 posted on
03/16/2004 1:26:57 AM PST by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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