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Saudi Sermon: Time for Christians and Jews to Convert to Islam
IMRA ^ | March 14, 2004 | FBIS

Posted on 03/14/2004 8:32:40 PM PST by yonif

Riyadh Kingdom of Saudi Arabia TV1 in Arabic, official television station of the Saudi Government, carries on February 27, 2004 at 0945 GMT a live sermon from the holy mosque in Mecca.

Shaykh Salih Bin-Muhammad Al Talib delivers the sermon, which he devotes to the story of genesis and the heavenly messages brought by the prophets, beginning with Adam and ending with Prophet Muhammad and the message of Islam. All heavenly religions, he asserts, came with one message -- worship of God.

"Therefore," the imam says, "is it not time the People of the Book [Christians and Jews] pondered and acknowledged that Islam is a continuation of the messages that came before it and that it is the religion that God has chosen for the whole of mankind?" "From the time of Prophet Muhammad, may the peace and blessings of God be upon him, until the Day of Judgment, God will not accept any other religion or creed," the imam says and cites the Koranic verse: "If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost."

Continuing, the imam says: "Have you not noticed that in the past 15 centuries history has not recorded that one single Muslim religious scholar has entered Judaism or Christianity? On the other hand, history records with letters of light the columns of rabbis and priests who have converted to Islam and linked their messages with its final message, which God has chosen for all mankind."

The imam makes this appeal: "Therefore, from the fountain of the message, the site of its revelation, and the pulpit of the house [ka'bah], which was built by Abraham and to which Moses and Jesus, peace be upon them, made pilgrimage, I make a sincere appeal along with our Prophet Muhammad's message to non-Muslims and say: Embrace Islam so as to be peaceful. Embrace Islam so as to be peaceful. Embrace Islam so that God would reward you twice. Otherwise, you, and those that follow you out of ignorance would have to account for your sin. It is an appeal to accept the truth and study Islam; the correct Islam that the prophet of guidance, Muhammad, may the peace and blessings of God be upon him, has brought; Islam as it really is, free of innovations and distortions; the Islam that is innocent of human violations and the errors made by some of its followers." The imam then reads this Koranic verse: "Say: "O People of the Book! Come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah. If then they turn back, Say ye: Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims bowing to Allah's will)."

The imam continues with the same theme in the second sermon. He says: "What has caused misery to mankind in these times of confused ideas is when some politicians hijacked religions and used them as a means to suppress others and a tool to dominate the followers of other faiths. This is what world Zionism did to Judaism. This is also what the so-called secular governments did to Christianity. They coerced peoples and occupied states by religious motives and claims of religiousness. And, although they deny these motives in their statements, they come out in their slips of the tongue and are unequivocally explained by their statements. The clerics in those religions are called upon to clearly say that they do not approve the behavior of their governments and that what is happening is not advocated by their religions so that their followers who are used in these attacks, those who think they are doing a good thing and getting closer God, would know that they are mere tools in the hands of the politicians serving their reckless whims, which are not curbed by religion or morals. These people's [clerics] silence and shy statements would only lead to the conflict or clash of civilizations. The racial segregation wall, which usurps Muslim lands in Palestine, is one example."

The imam says: "O Muslims, and now a final word on the roots. It is the duty of Muslims to strongly uphold their religion. The nation of Islam must believe that it is the only one on the right path, that Islam is the last of religions, that the Koran is the last of the Books and most importantly, that Prophet Muhammad, may the peace and blessings of God be upon him, is the last of the apostles, that the Islamic law [shari'a] is a copy of their laws, and that God will not accept any other religion. Thus, it is impermissible to concede any of that even if at the cost of our lives. We say this at a time when some defeatists have weakened and called for mixing distorted scriptures with Islamic religion under the claim of bringing religions closer to one another. We say it also at a time when some people's faith is so weak as to believe that everyone is correct. This began from the statements uttered by some and the behavior and theses written by others. It is as if they did not hear God's words: "If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never it will be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost."

The imam says: "If we are to renew the religious discourse, we must go back to the roots. This means going back to the Koran and the Sunnah. O God, show us the truth and help us to follow it, and show us falsehood and help us to avoid it. Please know ye, may God have mercy on you, that fasting on the 10th day in the month of Muharram [the first month of the new Hegira year, which began on 21 February 2004] atones for the sins of the two previous years. Fast on that day and also on the day before or after it. This is the tradition of your Prophet Muhammad, May the peace and blessings of God be upon him. He fasted on this day to thank God for saving Moses and his people and drowning the Pharaoh and his people. It is a strange paradox that this happy occasion has been transformed by a Muslim faction into continuous mourning and ceaseless wailing, in a picture that clearly shows ignorance of religion and following misleading persons without a good reason. O Ye, correct the path to God and follow the guidance of the prophet."

The imam concludes with a prayer to God to support Islam and Muslims, defeat the tyrants, atheists, and corrupt. He also prays to God to keep this and other Muslim countries safe and secure. He prays: "O God, spare us the evils of sins, earthquakes, and seditions, both the open and secret. O God, whoever wishes Islam and Muslims and their lands evil, busy him with himself, turn his plot against him, and make his plans destroy him. O God, support your religion, Book, the Sunnah of Your prophet, and your faithful subjects. O God, save oppressed Muslims everywhere. O God, support the mujahidin for your sake. O God, support them in Palestine and everywhere." The imam also prays to God to grant success to the king and his brothers in their endeavors for the wellbeing of the country and people.


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To: King Prout
"a" followed by "c" so that even the constituent atoms of the moonboy's throne are inextricably intertwined with radioactive lard.

< Homer>"Mmmmm....radioactive lard...< /Homer>
41 posted on 03/14/2004 10:01:11 PM PST by small_l_libertarian
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To: King Prout
Read the Old Testament, and know that what is appropriate to a people in one time and place is not necessarily so in another. I lived in Turkey for three years, and had a number of Muslim friends there. They are not the raving lunatics you seem to claim all Muslims are. There are, in case you hadn't noticed, raving lunatics who are supposedly Christians, and Jews, as well. "It don't take all kinds, we just got all kinds."
42 posted on 03/14/2004 10:09:53 PM PST by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF (Ret.))
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To: bayourod
I don't know how many are "scholars", but here are some links about Muslims who have converted to Christianity.

http://answering-islam.org.uk/Testimonies/

Link below has a radio interview with Ergun Caner, son of a Muslim Cleric. Now a Christian Pastor with a degree in theology.

http://home.christianity.com/topics/christianity_and_culture/worldviews/81783.html

He and his brother both converted to Christianity and wrote the book "Unveiling Islam"

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0825424003/103-4749056-1119028?v=glance
43 posted on 03/14/2004 10:16:49 PM PST by GeorgiaYankee
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To: RightOnline
I'll sort of agree with you, there. I once considered converting to Islam, but it failed the prayer test. It is ok for those who believe in it, but not for me. Anyone who tries to force me to convert from the church I converted to, a decade or so later, probably won't survive the experience, either. There is no God but God, and Gordon B. Hinckley is his prophet. I may be a lousy member of the church, but at least I know which one I belong to. It does pass the prayer test, for me, at least. YMMV.
44 posted on 03/14/2004 10:18:15 PM PST by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF (Ret.))
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
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45 posted on 03/14/2004 10:25:03 PM PST by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F’in Kerry)
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To: King Prout
from my study, i can state with absolute confidence: your moderate muslim friends were telling you untruth, deliberately or because they themselves do not know.

I'd say there's a good chance her friends don't know the real teachings of their religion. They have probably been listening to a leader who has distorted the koran to fit their views of what they want it to say. Much like priests, bishops, pastors etc. who condone unbiblical practices (abortions, gay marriages, family abuse....). Sadly, they are all lost and in need of prayer.

47 posted on 03/14/2004 11:02:16 PM PST by Krodg ("My faith frees me"...G.W. Bush........'A Charge To Keep')
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To: yonif
I used to have a response to the Saudis who tried frequently to convert me.

"Can you tell me if it's a two or three point conversion?"

They would stare at me like a liberal staring at a fact having no answer and no real way to BS one.
48 posted on 03/14/2004 11:07:51 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Proud member of the right wing extremist Neanderthals.)
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To: yonif
I make a sincere appeal along with our Prophet Muhammad's message to non-Muslims and say: Embrace Islam so as to be peaceful. Embrace Islam so as to be peaceful.

In other words...Embrace Islam or we will KILL YOU.

49 posted on 03/14/2004 11:48:43 PM PST by montag813
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To: Poodlebrain
Muslim clerics have been praying to Allah for the destruction of Israel since its creation in 1948. The Jews have been praying for God to protect Israel during the same period. Both claim to be praying to the same God of Abraham. Who's prayers appear to be getting answered?

You tell me. In the last 30 years everything has gone the Muslims' way, as Israel has self-destructed and put its trust in traitors like Begin, Rabin and Peres.

50 posted on 03/14/2004 11:50:54 PM PST by montag813
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To: Old Student
Read the Old Testament, and know that what is appropriate to a people in one time and place is not necessarily so in another.

Yes, people and circumstances change, but God doesn't.

"Therefore," the imam says, "is it not time the People of the Book [Christians and Jews] pondered and acknowledged that Islam is a continuation of the messages that came before it and that it is the religion that God has chosen for the whole of mankind?

How can anything that changes so radically from a basic truth, claim to be a continuation of the same? God has always blessed His people when they have turned to him in repentance, but He has never abandoned them when they turned away. To believe in Islam, we have to believe that God now wants us to forget that He sent His Son to die for our sins. To me, that is blasphemous.

I lived in Turkey for three years, and had a number of Muslim friends there. They are not the raving lunatics you seem to claim all Muslims are.

I don't think they're all raving lunatics....but I firmly believe they are lost. That is my opinion based on God's Word...

51 posted on 03/14/2004 11:55:54 PM PST by Krodg ("My faith frees me"...G.W. Bush........'A Charge To Keep')
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To: yonif
Keep it up, fools. Keep it up.


52 posted on 03/15/2004 12:16:04 AM PST by Knuckle Sandwich Combo (Proud Member of the Republican Attack Squad)
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To: yonif
Thus, it is impermissible to concede any of that even if at the cost of our lives.

Have it your way, Shaykh Salih. We'll gladly oblige.

-ccm

53 posted on 03/15/2004 1:49:32 AM PST by ccmay
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To: OLD REGGIE; HarleyD; Siobhan; Salvation; VinayFromBangalore
The imam makes this appeal: "Therefore, from the fountain of the message, the site of its revelation, and the pulpit of the house [ka'bah], which was built by Abraham and to which Moses and Jesus, peace be upon them, made pilgrimage

Old Reg -- these are some of the propaganda Slaammmmies are taught. Moses and Jesus made pilgramages to the Ka'aba? huh??? When? And how come it's not mentioned anywhere else? Moses died around 1000 B.C. and for 1600 years no mention at all about a visit to the Ka'aba. Jesuss was crucified 600 before Mo and again, no one knew he had visited the Ka'aba, until ole Mo came up with his revelations!

And for you Vinay, as you correctly pointed out in other posts, it's vindicated here -- ole Mo's moon goons want Xtians and Jooos to convert, the rest will be bumped off Iguess.
54 posted on 03/15/2004 1:54:56 AM PST by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: yonif
"What has caused misery to mankind in these times of confused ideas is when some politicians hijacked religions and used them as a means to suppress others and a tool to dominate the followers of other faiths. This is what world Zionism did to Judaism. This is also what the so-called secular governments did to Christianity. They coerced peoples and occupied states by religious motives and claims of religiousness. And, although they deny these motives in their statements, they come out in their slips of the tongue and are unequivocally explained by their statements. The clerics in those religions are called upon to clearly say that they do not approve the behavior of their governments and that what is happening is not advocated by their religions so that their followers who are used in these attacks, those who think they are doing a good thing and getting closer God, would know that they are mere tools in the hands of the politicians serving their reckless whims, which are not curbed by religion or morals. These people's [clerics] silence and shy statements would only lead to the conflict or clash of civilizations. The racial segregation wall, which usurps Muslim lands in Palestine, is one example."

The siren song of Satan...

55 posted on 03/15/2004 2:00:16 AM PST by Prince Charles
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To: Centurion2000
BTTT
56 posted on 03/15/2004 2:43:36 AM PST by Lion in Winter
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To: Travis McGee
Yep, looks exactly like what is needed. However, I am having a hard time in trying to mentally resolve what should be eliminated (with extreme prejudice) first, the islamo-fascist scum of the world or their socilaist enablers?

No doubt about it, the day is coming when there will have to be a reckoning. The situation has gone to far and there can never be an accomodation with either emnemy. I have finally faced the fact that it is them or us in the most basic of terms.

That being said, I've answered my own question. To prepare for the task ahead we need to get rid of the internal rot first.
57 posted on 03/15/2004 3:50:48 AM PST by Bad Dog2 (Bad Dog - No Biscuit)
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To: Blzbba
...but don't ask a Jew who the greatest Jew was. Likely Moses will be the answer.
58 posted on 03/15/2004 4:23:35 AM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: yonif
bin Laden is a mosquito, and militant Islam is the swamp which spawned him. We can swat an endless series of terrorists, but we will ultimately lose unless we drain the swamp
59 posted on 03/15/2004 4:36:00 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (No anchovies!)
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To: RichInOC
What would be the optimum future use for the Great Mosque at Mecca?

Hog buttchery, definitely. It will forever make it unclean to Muslims. They can continue to worship a hole, they can dream of reconquering a synagogue, but to have the site seeped in hog blood, soaked down into the depths of the sand, would make it impossible to fix

60 posted on 03/15/2004 4:41:37 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (No anchovies!)
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