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To: Amelia; Elsie; js1138; balrog666
Hypothesis: A tentative explanation for an observation, phenomenon, or scientific problem that can be tested by further investigation.

Let us then tentatively adopt the above dictionary definition as THE scientific definition of "hypothesis" and consider first of all which, if any, of its components can be accomplished or even recognized without intelligence, or design. Can you name one? I can, but only one. Here are the components I can reasonably distinguish:

1.) Explanation
2.) Observation
3.) Phenomenon
4.) Scientific Problem
5.) Testing
6.) Investigation

As far as "testing" is concerned, what should one look for to detect the presence of intelligence or design? Here are a few things I would look for:

1.) Order
2.) Symmetry
3.) Functionality
4.) Consistency
5.) Quantifiability
6.) Observability
7.) Interaction
8.) Communication

Is it really necessary to establish a scientifc test to determine whether these things are truly present in the universe? How about just opening those eyeballs a little bit? How about being born?!!!!

Now, as for how intelligence and design are related to each other, one should at least ask which of the two can exist without the other. Can there be intelligence without design, or vice versa, can there be design without intelligence?

618 posted on 03/18/2004 4:30:00 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
You are just spewing words. "Intelligence" and "Design" are empty air unless you can define them in a non-circular way. Try defining either in a way that everyone can agree on.
620 posted on 03/18/2004 4:53:22 PM PST by js1138
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To: Fester Chugabrew
You know, I feel as if one of us is speaking English and the other is speaking Spanish. Some of the words are similar, but I don't think either of us is speaking so that the other comprehends the meaning.

That is to say, I really don't understand where you are going with your "argument".
628 posted on 03/18/2004 5:44:12 PM PST by Amelia
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