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"JOBS AT A RECORD HIGH!" - Fred Barnes
Fox News
| 3/12/04
| Fred Barnes
Posted on 03/12/2004 4:07:52 PM PST by The G Man
Fred (The Beatle) Barnes on FOX just B-slapped Juan Williams after Juan-ton-ton (the lib who saved Hollywood) parroted the company line of a "jobless recovery" and people "leaving the workforce because they are so discouraged"
Fred then cut him off and went onto forcefully explain the difference between the "payroll survey" which polls employers as to their employment info and the "household survey" which polls, well, households as to THEIR employment. He went onto explain that if you use the household survey number EMPLOYMENT IS AT A RECORD HIGH BY $700,000 JOBS!!!
The household survey takes into account things like people who leave their jobs to become consultants, independent contractors, or to run home based businesses.
Juan was left dumbfounded.
This is our avenue of attack! This is the road that we conservatives need to take to counter the Dems slanderous allegations about the economic recovery. The workforce dynamic has changed over the last 10 years. The advent of the internet and eBay has made running a home based business a reality for countless Americans. Lets count 'em!
TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bushrecovery; jobs; unemployment
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To: John123
But, computers and image processors are now thoroughly integrated in medical imaging.
As I am wont to say when feeling goofy, I am a Maytag repairman who dabbles from millivolts to kilovolts.
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posted on
03/12/2004 4:21:38 PM PST
by
jwalsh07
(We're bringing it on John but you can't handle the truth!)
To: AlbertWang
Wen wang talks, we listen.
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posted on
03/12/2004 4:22:21 PM PST
by
jwalsh07
(We're bringing it on John but you can't handle the truth!)
To: AlbertWang
NEWS FLASH! Albert Wang predicts 45 State Bush Blowout! Please accept my application for the Albert Wang fan club. The Wanger rocks!
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posted on
03/12/2004 4:23:58 PM PST
by
The G Man
(John Kerry? America just can't afford a 9/10 President in a 9/11 world. Vote Bush-Cheney '04.)
To: bigpete_53
The consumer confidence numbers are also quite high, which is kind of hard to reconcile with a "jobless recovery." Also, I urge all of you to go to the website of the Bureau of Labor Statistics and compare total nonfarm jobs in January of 2001 (when Bush took office) to the most recent numbers. There has been a net gain even in this survey, which ain't bad when you consider we had 5 or 6 quarters of recession during this period and were deflating the internet bubble of 1997 through March of 2000.
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posted on
03/12/2004 4:25:26 PM PST
by
p. henry
To: AlbertWang
Dang Wang ya think so.
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posted on
03/12/2004 4:25:29 PM PST
by
cripplecreek
(you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
To: The G Man
EMPLOYMENT IS AT A RECORD HIGH BY $700,000 JOBS!!! Should the dollar sign be there?
To: LibLieSlayer
Mort had a blistering rebuttal of his own for Juan.To his credit, I find it impossible at times to discern whether Mort is left or right of center. I find him to be very fair. Not always right, but at least fair.
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posted on
03/12/2004 4:28:43 PM PST
by
The G Man
(John Kerry? America just can't afford a 9/10 President in a 9/11 world. Vote Bush-Cheney '04.)
To: ValerieUSA
LOL ... good call.
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posted on
03/12/2004 4:29:11 PM PST
by
The G Man
(John Kerry? America just can't afford a 9/10 President in a 9/11 world. Vote Bush-Cheney '04.)
To: The G Man
Fred then cut him off and went onto forcefully explain the difference between the "payroll survey" which polls employers as to their employment info and the "household survey" which polls, well, households as to THEIR employment.Hey Fred! I'm cooking myself a burger for dinner this evening...
under the household survey, does that mean I have a manufacturing job?
To: ValerieUSA
EMPLOYMENT IS AT A RECORD HIGH BY $700,000 JOBS!!! Should the dollar sign be there?
Just make believe it ain't there eh?
To: The G Man
Kerry does not want to be the president. He, at the direction of his party and at great expense to the public, only wants to have the democrats make a respectable showing and keep the venom flowing. A Florida disaster is also a bonus as you may see a few other legal fiascos in close states just to again make Bush a leader of questionable mandate by the people.
The fall election in a presidential year like this one would put the house and senate over a republican 2/3 majority if the democrats had no serious candidate to whip up the ticket for party unity.
Kerry's task, for which he will be paid handsomely, is to only minimize house, senate, and governor losses for the democrats.
In the meantime, Juan, Mort, Britt, and thousands of others in the talking box industry need a paycheck. In order to earn it they need to make it entertaining.
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posted on
03/12/2004 4:34:39 PM PST
by
blackdog
(I feed the sheep the coyotes eat)
To: Willie Green
Hey Fred! I'm cooking myself a burger for dinner this evening... under the household survey, does that mean I have a manufacturing job? 1. Fred didn't mention "manufacturing jobs". Just jobs. (Technically speaking, there are other kinds of jobs besides "manufacturing" jobs, you know.)
2. Is someone paying you to flip that burger, and on an ongoing basis? If so, then I'd say yes, you have a job. Let me know....
To: The G Man
During the 30's, I understand that 75% of the workforce didn't lose their jobs...I assume they thought things were just fine and the economy was booming...
A fella I know who grew up on a farm back then didn't even know a depression was going on, except for what little they heard on the radio...
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posted on
03/12/2004 4:45:08 PM PST
by
Iscool
To: The G Man
I've been saying this for months and posting the data from the DOL official numbers ... now here's Fred stealing my thunder .. sigh
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posted on
03/12/2004 4:45:59 PM PST
by
BlueNgold
(Feed the Tree .....)
To: The G Man
The household survey takes into account things like people who leave their jobs to become consultants, independent contractors, or to run home based businesses. Consultant translated means unemployed.
Now about those home based businesses - the ones where you can stuff envelopes and make $1,000 per week in your spare time - oh, come now.
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posted on
03/12/2004 4:47:45 PM PST
by
neutrino
(Oderint dum metuant: Let them hate us, so long as they fear us.)
To: Willie Green
Hey Fred! I'm cooking myself a burger for dinner this evening... under the household survey, does that mean I have a manufacturing job? Mr. Green, I suggest you add a slice of cheese to your burger.
Woo hoo! Now I'm a consultant to a manufacturing company!
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posted on
03/12/2004 4:50:04 PM PST
by
neutrino
(Oderint dum metuant: Let them hate us, so long as they fear us.)
To: The G Man
We don't need to do anything. If what you say is true, there will be plenty of people making money at their jobs and this won't be a factor in the booth.
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posted on
03/12/2004 4:55:33 PM PST
by
ItisaReligionofPeace
(I'm from the government and I'm here to help.)
To: The G Man
To his credit, I find it impossible at times to discern whether Mort is left or right of center. I find him to be very fair. Not always right, but at least fair. Mort is generally "balanced", however, when he talks about money, i.e. deficits, debt, and especially funding for medical research, he goes way off of the charts. Mort just can't get it through his head that sometimes medical research solves a problem and it is not necessary to fund that portion anymore. He thinks that you have to increase it every year, regardless.
It's somewhat understandable, since his wife has, I believe, Parkinson's Disease, and he rightfully is hoping for a cure.
I have been particularly impressed that he has seen through the Kerry vs. Bush attack ads.
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posted on
03/12/2004 4:57:14 PM PST
by
jackbill
To: neutrino
My neighbor, a mechanical engineer in the paper industry, quit his job and went into the mill support business as a solo act. He felt that the corporations who owned the mills and the large firms who provide service/support were below par and not likely to change their psychology.
He now gross's more than a million a year and his wife is quitting her $125,000 job to stay at home as a mom, and selling her services as a patent attorney to firms needing contractual assistance.
He went from cold start to over a million in two years. During the first six months he had run up several tens of thousands on his credit cards just on air travel and hotel stays. He had to take out a huge insurance policy for liability to cover his exposure, tinkering with several hundred million dollar paper machines.
His wife figures she can double her earnings by staying at home with babies.
I just hope he avoids a tax problem.
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posted on
03/12/2004 4:58:40 PM PST
by
blackdog
(I feed the sheep the coyotes eat)
To: neutrino
You forgot to bill him first, then give the advice.
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posted on
03/12/2004 4:59:26 PM PST
by
ItisaReligionofPeace
(I'm from the government and I'm here to help.)
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