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To: Betaille
People. Come on. The world doesn't just move to the rythms of the U.S. and our problems.

Having lived in Madrid for 7 years, ETA exists and kills people. To suggest there is no evidence against ETA here, is, well, stupid and yes, I hate to say it but ignorant. Now I don't know if they did it but neither do any of you.

You are in wishful thinking mode because you, and several other posters here, WANT to think its al qaeda. We all lose credibility when you instantly assume you understand the problems of a country like Spain through your political need of the day. For 7 years in the 70s and 80s I walked past guardia civil troopers with submachines on the streets because of ETA.

If they refuse to investigate and just incriminate ETA, that's ridiculous. They won't be doing that though. With this many people dead, they don't care who the perpetrators are, they just want them punished.

75 posted on 03/11/2004 11:32:50 AM PST by hoyaloya
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To: hoyaloya
What do you think about the possibility of elements of Al Q and ETA having perhaps worked together on this attack? Ties to the mysterious AZF group that tried to blackmail the French gov't with threats of railway bombings a few months ago?
80 posted on 03/11/2004 11:55:58 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat ("I'm Diddle E. Squat, and I approved this tagline")
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To: hoyaloya
"I hate to say it but ignorant"
That's a bit snobbish of you. I lived in Madrid also pal. I know about ETA, I know they are real bad guys, but the fact is that this simply doesn't fit their profile. I agree with you that you can't "rule out" any group until further investigation. All I am saying is that the Spanish Government seems to be under the impression that all terrorism on spanish soil will come from ETA, ignoring the fact that ETA didn't claim responsibility(it always does when it is responsible), and also ignoring the fact that this fits the mold of an islamic terrorist bombing perfectly.
81 posted on 03/11/2004 11:58:24 AM PST by Betaille (The city put the country back in me)
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To: hoyaloya
They found something with verses from the Koran nearby.
82 posted on 03/11/2004 12:01:10 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: hoyaloya
CNN REPORTS: Spanish interior minister says new line of Madrid blast investigation opened after police find van with detonators and Arabic-language tapes. Developing...
83 posted on 03/11/2004 12:01:33 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: hoyaloya
(BREAKING) ARABIC TAPE AND DETONATORS FOUND IN VAN IN MADRID - SPANISH MINISTER
84 posted on 03/11/2004 12:09:20 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: hoyaloya
Madrid Bombs Don't Match ETA Style - Europol Head
86 posted on 03/11/2004 12:16:06 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: hoyaloya
Al Qaeda just claimed responsibility.
88 posted on 03/11/2004 12:20:58 PM PST by Betaille (The city put the country back in me)
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To: hoyaloya
You are in wishful thinking mode because you, and several other posters here, WANT to think its al qaeda.

There is a bit of evidence coming in now. Certainly there is no proof yet, but there is more than wishful thinking.

90 posted on 03/11/2004 12:27:57 PM PST by js1138
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To: hoyaloya
Woa, guess you're wrong....
93 posted on 03/11/2004 12:34:56 PM PST by Porterville (Play the cards you were dealt or crawl in a whole and die; Vote for Bush or go away.)
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