[Mr. Silverback]

If you hear an industrial-type whining sound, that's George Washington and Thomas Jefferson spinning in their graves.

Bowing to the State shouldn't be one of the choices. At this point, their only legitimate choices are to drop the drug coverage, or just defy the State and say, "come get me." Hopefully the SCOTUS will land on California like a ton of bricks over this, but who knows with them?

[conservativecorner]

How Far the New Liberal Orthodoxy Will Go

All the way to hell!

[Mr. Silverback]

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[spunkets]

"Now Catholic Charities has two choices: Violate church teaching, or drop prescription drug coverage. "

No, the choices are not limited to these 2. They can tell the court to go f themselves. Which is what they should do in addition to firing the bozo employee(s) that filed the suit in the first place.

[WorkingClassFilth]

"How Far the New Liberal Orthodoxy Will Go?"

Given the 'deep-green' ideology (Pantheism), the cultural morass rooted in materialism and the abundant apostacy of the mainline churches, well, I'd guess right back to Molech, Baal, Ishtar and all of the other all-time favorites.

[Wonder Warthog]

"At this point, their only legitimate choices are to drop the drug coverage, or just defy the State and say, "come get me.""

Actually, only one of your proposed choices is legitimate (dropping drug coverage). There IS a real second legitimate choice---get the legislature to pass a law overruling the court. Chance of that happening = snowball in hell.

[Tax-chick]

The Supremes will do nada. I think the California court's decision is reasonable, on its terms. The Church (and I say this as a Catholic) bought this trouble for itself when it began acting like a secular business. There wouldn't be any demand for coverage for contraceptives (or for "domestic partner" benefits) if the employees of Catholic Charities were believing Catholics.

Why did they hire people who don't believe Catholic doctrine? Because the decision-makers didn't think it mattered. And when the people in charge think the faith and morals of the Church have no bearing on the institution's mission, then the organization IS secular.

[LoneRangerMassachusetts]

On March 1, the California Supreme Court ruled that Catholic Charities must include contraceptives in its prescription drug coverage despite clear Catholic teaching to the contrary

I with no legal schooling would read this as the state establishing its view of religion, a direct violation of the first amendment. The court acting on behalf of the state is taking a side on a social political issue and forcing its view upon the people.

The courts are out of control and they are pushing the moment closer in which warlords will seize the opportunity with a mandate from a broad base of the people who will react against meddling leftists. Warlords will wipe out the scourge of leftists -- lawyers, sociologists, psychologists, peace priests, union teachers -- who have crept into key positions of governmental power. Watch for a last minute gun grab by the statists as that moment comes closer.

In the last election, one half of eligible voters did not vote. Do these idiots realize what they are about to lose? They want to be left alone yet they won't vote against meddlers who want to control them. The

[Redbob]

Another take on this is that "Catholic Charities" is one of the most-liberal of church groups, and they're reaping what they've sown here.

[Blood of Tyrants]

At this point, their only legitimate choices are to drop the drug coverage

Exactly. As Rush says, capitalism is th unequal distribution of wealth. Liberalism is the equal distribution of misery.

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Maybe they could do what the Mayor of San Fran does - just disobey the law.

[EdReform]

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Now Catholic Charities has two choices: Violate church teaching, or drop prescription drug coverage.

Or just do what is starting to become popular by the anarchist left and just ignore the ruling. After all, isn't that what the extreme left is doing more and more these days?! The laws they don't like they just ignore as being unjust or something like that! Why heck, why not just do away with all civilized laws and we all just do what we want whenever we want.

We can then proclain America, the land of Anarchy and the totally free (of civility and the law). </sarcasm>

[Indie]

Hopefully the SCOTUS will land on California like a ton of bricks over this....

You are kidding, right?

[Twinkie]

Washington & Jefferson didn't have to deal with all the
complications ("health" insurance & all that jazz) that
we have painted ourselves in a corner with these days.
How did they EVER get along without all the hassles &
stresses of paying insurance and the like. Our insurance
is just about at $10,000 per year. If we had started a
medical savings account years ago and had the maturity to
stick with it and not keep thinking we just had to delve
into it, we would be independent of the blood suckers by
now.

[Ann Archy]

BUMP

[NYer]

As Professor Robert George of Princeton says, this ruling should be seen as part of a larger attack on the Catholic church for "its resistance to the new liberal orthodoxy." If the church can be forced to pay for contraceptives, then there's no reason why it can't be forced to pay for abortions and provide "spousal" benefits to same-sex partners. And, Dr. George reminds us, "What applies to the Catholic church will also apply to evangelical Protestant churches" as well.

" He (Cardinal George) said Gay Marriage is much the same way. Except here we have the making of a Totalitarian State. The State is now defining an institution which prior it had no business defining. Which is precisely what Totalitarian States are all about. Thus as Catholics we cannot withdraw and say, well it is their choice. Rather we must fight, and we must say, that Natural Law dictates as well as Tradition. "
A Fireside Chat with Cardinal George

If you have not yet read this thread, I strongly encourage you to do so. It is a chilling perspective on what the Catholic Church in the US will soon be facing.

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