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To: goldstategop
There are many people on this site angry at President bush for not going after Kerry.

For them I have just 5 words.

Remember the TORCH and LAUTENBERG!

If President Bush had taken on Kerry and answered his charges, where would Kerry be? He would be on the road to defeat and every Democrat would know it.

What would the Democrats do if they knew that Kerry did not have a prayer of winning this fall?

They would replace him with someone that could!!

Kerry is and was the Democrat who could easily be beat. Yes he is easier to defeat than DEAN. If Dean had not been taken down he could have easily moved to the center. Dean was a better speaker, and had far less political baggage than Kerry.

Dean did not have a very leftist senate voting record that spanned 19 years. He could have shifted views. The media could have played him as just pandering to his base... nothing to worry about. There is plenty to worry about with Kerry.

But what if going into the Democratic convention Kerry was a certain loser. What would the party have him do... They could force him come down with a hangnail and resign. He could set his delegates free. He could make an open convention. The New Jersey situation with the Torch proves it could be done.

So don't look for President Bush to make major moves to destroy John Kerry before the Convention. It would not be a wise thing to do.

Remember that just a little over 2 months ago the president had a high 50s approval rating. He can turn the situation around in September and October and put it there again. A president has huge a control of events. He can control the agenda. A challenger can't do that. He has little power to control.

Those that fault Bush for not destroying Kerry NOW!!! Are just begging for another PResident Clinton.

Ask the TORCH how that works!!!

Here is my take on the Bush media campaign and where it is going
7 posted on 03/06/2004 3:51:46 AM PST by Common Tator
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To: Common Tator
If Bush doesn't do it, the Clintons will. If Hillary wants to be President in 2008, NO Democrat will be allowed to win this year. And you can take that to the bank.
14 posted on 03/06/2004 4:04:49 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Common Tator
Ray, I have taken to reading your commentaries regularly.

Right now, of course, we all need all the optimism we can get.
Would you mind giving us some idea of your background in analyzing politics? You are very astute.
17 posted on 03/06/2004 4:24:50 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Common Tator
Splendid analysis! See post #17. I would also be very interested in your background.

Another thing that really destroys the credibility of the media is their overhype of the Nader factor. Currently, they have Nader garnering six per cent. Even the dumbest sheeple can do the math. Add Nader to Kerry and Kerry has a solid, steady lead. Thus, the Democrats are right to being worked up into a lather over Nader even being in the race.

We all know what happens if the race is really close down to the wire-- all the Nader voters except the most committed switch just like they did in 2000. Further, the media attention to Nader makes whoever is the Democrat candidate seem oh so moderate. For every two votes that Nader steels, the Democrat picks up at least three from the mindless mushy middle who is convinced that Nader proves the moderateness of the Democrat position.

Had Buchanan been given the same coverage as Ralph Nader, it is entirely possible the same thing would have worked on the right-- and the press knows it. So Nader will continue to get hyped and scapegoated if the election is close. I really hope you are right about a blowout. I think it is very possible that Kerry may be the leftwing equivalent of Bob Dole, but without the charisma and character.

20 posted on 03/06/2004 5:01:04 AM PST by Rubber Duck
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To: Common Tator
Your Post #7 makes a lot of sense.

Like the Torch, I wouldn't doubt the Dems would dump Kerry - even after the Nomination. Remember, they did that to McGovern's running mate, Thomas Eagleton, in '72! Democrats have their "perfect" candidate waiting in the Wings primed and ready to go, Hillary.

There would be no time for the Media or the public to closely examine her (not that they really would). There would be no time for a grassroots campaign against her (remember the Campaign Finance Reform Act). She would have no time to "debate" and defend her positions in an open contest (not that she really can or would). Like the Torch, she would likely cruise to power on pure public emotion, adulation and Media hype because she is the first woman candidate and the Media simply adore her (not that anybody should). Liberals and most "Independents" would simply swoon at the opportunity to vote for her for the obvious reasons.

I smell a sucker-punch setup by the same people who brought us a senile, illegally nominated Lautenberg.

36 posted on 03/06/2004 6:25:07 AM PST by Gritty ("I can't get my head round the whole retro this-is-the-aging-of-the-dawn-of-Aquarius scene"-Mk Steyn)
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To: Common Tator
Remember the TORCH and LAUTENBERG!

Dude, you make an incredible amount of sense - Thanks!!!!

42 posted on 03/06/2004 6:50:30 AM PST by GWB00
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To: Common Tator
I read many of your commentaries because they are often full of analysis. Many I agree with, some I don't. This one I think could go either way.

What conservatives and republicans always seem to forget is they see the world from their own prejudices and preferences. Yes, Kerry does have some very soft spots. But then too, so does President Bush. Are we better off than we were 4 years ago? In general no. Is it the President's fault? In general, most isn't.

Our virtually jobless recovery, largely due to a combination of outsourcing and the continued dow meltdown would have taken place no mater what. 9/11, while a factor has largely been moved on in the minds of many American's. You live where you can read the Dispatch. Have you read today's article at the bottom of page 1 discussing jobs? Central Ohio, largely immune from swings in employment has lost I believe 9,000 jobs between this January and January 2003. That's depressing. I read a report yesterday that said the upswing in net national jobs was largely due to government employment, not private sector which remained flat. Kerry may be soft on issues. The President will be judged in many cases on the pocketbooks and wallets of average folks.

There was vast support in the war on terrorism in general and the Iraq war in particular. Many people felt the invasion was a completion of unfinished business from 1991. There was strong emphasis placed on WMD's, links to Al Qeuda or other terror groups that threaten us, and the fact that we would not be the policemen of Iraq once liberated. Yet this morning in our paper we read that the extreme religous leaders in Iraq killed an opportunity to begin a constitution signing in the country. It may be a temporary setback as implied by the paper. But then again, it could be representative of a much more dangerous process than was sold.

And everyday there is a report of terror or death of our brave soldiers, the strength of President Bush trickles away. Republican's may see the longer goal. The average Joe doesn't. The tide is turning.< p>Incumbency is very powerful. And the President has that on his side. But he is weak. He has thumbed his nose at his conservative base, yet is now seen by liberals and conservatives alike as pandering to this constituency. Our national debt has grown again. Sure some of it is security and war. Much was the approval of pork from the republican congress. Remember, the president has yet to withhold his pen from a spending bill.

His words after the supremes ruling in the Michigan racial preference case was not endearing to the core. His abondonment of some judicial nominees has also left his base realing.

I was listening to the christian talk station in this area last Saturday. One of the topics was "are conservatives hurting President Bush?" The guest was a book author. Yet like the supporters of Bill Clinton during impeachment, he was using any of the same rationalizations for supporting his man. And most of the callers were angry.

Kerry isn't the most inspiring speaker. but then again, neither is the President. The debates will be dull, like watching Bob Dole against Bob Dole. But Kerry isn't Al Gore. He's better, much better. And the debates is what did Gore in.

Yes this is still President Bush's to lose. But he is not coming from a position of strength. And just before Iowa, Kerry was largely written off. He prevailed. He came from nowhere to dominate. Don't underestimate him. And don't underestimate the man or woman voter who isn't an ideaologue republican or democrat.

This is indeed a very difficult time for our President and he is in for the run for his life.

43 posted on 03/06/2004 6:51:11 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: Common Tator
They would replace him with someone that could!!

CFR kicks in only 3 weeks after the dim convention.

49 posted on 03/06/2004 7:11:17 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: Common Tator
I love your "take" on the Bush media campaign! Yer one shmot man, Mistuh Malone!
51 posted on 03/06/2004 7:15:55 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: Common Tator
Journalism sells one thing above all else--the idea that you need to know "what's going on"--and that you can know that, for free, just by paying attention to them.

Your need to know "what's going on" depends on the idea that "what's going on" at any given moment is important--which contrasts with the idea that the Bible and the Constitution are far more important than any cause celebre', and thus is an inherently anti-conservative concept.

62 posted on 03/06/2004 8:22:34 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Belief in your own objectivity is the essence of subjectivity.)
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To: Common Tator
"Kerry is and was the Democrat who could easily be beat. Yes he is easier to defeat than DEAN. If Dean had not been taken down he could have easily moved to the center. Dean was a better speaker, and had far less political baggage than Kerry."

You are correct, although once Dean screamed, it was clear he too could be made unelectable.

Had Dean kept his mouth in control, he could have had a media makeover ... in fact, they were in the process of that , with the "dont you know he's really not that Liberal" line.

Kerry is the better candidate because Dean shot himself in the foot too much to be able to keep running.
63 posted on 03/06/2004 9:17:09 AM PST by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: Common Tator
tator, you make sense - it's my feeling that if kerry blows up too soon (before the convention), the leftists will write in Hillary as the god-queen on the white stallion coming to save their party.
71 posted on 03/06/2004 5:59:23 PM PST by CGVet58 (God has granted us liberty, and we owe Him courage in return)
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