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FBI Tried, And Failed, To Interview McVeigh on Death Row
AP ^ | Mar 4, 2004 | JOHN SOLOMON

Posted on 03/04/2004 4:40:12 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

In a drama played out behind closed doors, senior FBI agents unsuccessfully sought permission in 2001 to interview Timothy McVeigh to resolve lingering questions about the case before the convicted Oklahoma City bomber was put to death, officials say.

The agents wanted to clear up uncertainties about McVeigh's whereabouts on specific dates that were left unanswered by his public statements and the evidence, essentially filling in gaps in his timeline before the bombing, the officials told The Associated Press.

The plan was scrapped when the government couldn't resolve who would attend the interview or how it would be conducted. Officials also became distracted by the belated discovery of some 4,000 pages of documents that had not been turned over to McVeigh's defense during his trial.

That discovery prompted a one-month delay in McVeigh's execution, during which FBI and Treasury agents continued to press unsuccessfully for access to McVeigh on death row.

The interview debate was described by several current and former officials. They said it showed the government didn't know everything it wanted about McVeigh before he was put to death.

The officials said the potential interview became a primary focus of the remaining McVeigh investigative team during the spring of 2001 and was the subject of a high-level meeting in Oklahoma City in March of that year.

The officials said the debate was documented in numerous FBI e-mails, and they were uncertain whether those e-mails should have been turned over to lawyers for the upcoming Oklahoma state murder trial of Terry Nichols, McVeigh's co-conspirator.

Besides filling in the gaps for McVeigh's whereabouts, one senior official said agents had seen instances in the past where "death row inmates were willing to give us some of their thought processes as their execution neared, and we hoped McVeigh might do the same."

The officials would only discuss the interview debate on condition their names not be used. The Justice Department has ordered its employees not to discuss the McVeigh case as Nichols' trial begins this week.

New information has been emerging nine years after McVeigh's massive fertilizer bomb killed more than 160 people at the Alfred P. Murrah building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995.

Last week, AP reported that FBI agents in another case developed evidence suggesting a gang of white supremacist bank robbers might have become involved in McVeigh's conspiracy, but the agents failed to forward some of the information to their colleagues in the Oklahoma case. That prompted the FBI on Friday to reopen portions of the case to determine whether other conspirators were involved, and the judge in the Nichols' trial warned he might dismiss the case if defense lawyers provided proof information was withheld from Nichols.

Several officials said the debate over interviewing McVeigh continued between the FBI, Justice Department and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms without resolution, ending when McVeigh was executed in June 2001.

Some called it a missed opportunity, especially because much of the speculation about additional accomplices in the Oklahoma City case focused on periods in which there were uncertainties about McVeigh's whereabouts.

For instance, agents never were able to determine where he spent the final night before he detonated his bomb. They also wanted to inquire about time he spent in Arizona in February 1995, when he began to finalize his bomb design.

FBI agents determined McVeigh tried unsuccessfully to contact an explosives expert while in Arizona, and they wanted to know whether he sought help from anyone else.

An Oklahoma newspaper, the Idabel McCurtain Daily Gazette, and a college criminology professor, Mark Hamm, have studied McVeigh's movements extensively and developed timelines showing the white supremacist bank robbery gang was in the same vicinity as McVeigh several times during gaps in the government's official version of events.

"You have to use logic here. What is the probability of these things happening?" said Hamm, an Indiana State University professor who wrote a book identifying at least four intersections of McVeigh and the robbers between 1993 and 1995.

"If it was one time, you might chalk it up to coincidence. If it is two times, you might begin to ask some serious questions. But when it gets to three and four times, that suggests there clearly is an ongoing conspiracy," he said.

For instance, the bank robbers were in Arizona during some of the same time as McVeigh in February 1995. Just a month earlier, in a videotape the robbers made they display an explosives manual while bragging about plans to kill government officials.

Hamm said he placed McVeigh and the bank robbers together in December 1994 at a gun show in Overland Park, Kan., and again in 1993 when they were in a rural Arkansas town on the same day.

Another parallel occurred in November 1994: McVeigh was in Ohio, near a bank the gang would rob a month later, on the day that an Arkansas gun dealer was robbed to provide the proceeds for McVeigh's bombing.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: mcveigh; okcbombing

1 posted on 03/04/2004 4:40:14 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The plan was scrapped when the government couldn't resolve who would attend the interview or how it would be conducted.

What a model of competence our government is. "how it would be conducted"? Uh, here's a thought: the FBI guys (and/or anyone they want to bring who is authorized to go to such a place and has proper ID) walk in, sit down across from McVeigh (or stand in the hallway talking to him through bars like in Silence of the Lambs), and ask him whatever the hell they want to. What possible objection could there be to this?

Sometimes it's like the government tries to fan the flames of conspiracy theories, even if/when there's no conspiracy.

2 posted on 03/04/2004 5:02:19 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The comedy continues.
3 posted on 03/04/2004 5:05:08 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: Tailgunner Joe
McVeigh and White Supremest Bank robbers on planet Earth at same time, coincidence? I think NOT!
4 posted on 03/04/2004 5:10:10 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
>>...the government couldn't resolve who would attend the interview or how it would be conducted....<<

Well let's see...you get McVeigh and an interviewer and you have the interviewer ask him questions and he answers them.

I guess that was a little too hard for the feds to figure out.

5 posted on 03/04/2004 5:36:24 PM PST by FReepaholic (Never Forget: www.september-11-videos.com)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I think McVeigh was drawn in by Islamic terrorists who masterminded it. The same ones later pulled off 9/11. Clinton told the feds to hush all reference to terrorists, focus on McVeigh. It would be too politically damaging for him.

All along they quietly promised McVeigh a secret pardon and freedom so he wouldn't talk. When he saw it wasn't happening, he was ready to talk, but they wouldn't let him.
He became the fall guy.

White supremist bank robbers. Ha.
6 posted on 03/04/2004 6:00:00 PM PST by Rennes Templar
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To: Rennes Templar
Okay, donning tin foil hat but yes, I agree with you. What exactly was the rush to execute McVeigh? We have killers sitting on death rows for twenty years, but one of the most touchy-feely admins in our history ramrods this man's execution through? What were they afraid he would say?
7 posted on 03/04/2004 6:04:39 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Rennes Templar
I think McVeigh was drawn in by Islamic terrorists who masterminded it. The same ones later pulled off 9/11. Clinton told the feds to hush all reference to terrorists, focus on McVeigh. It would be too politically damaging for him.

Then why is the Bush Admin continuing to provide cover? It's a perfect reason to justify the Iraqi invasion if true.

There is much more to this case. Check this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1076594/posts

8 posted on 03/04/2004 6:06:29 PM PST by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org ** G-d may not be a Republican, but Satan is definitely a Democrat!)
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To: ovrtaxt
"Then why is the Bush Admin continuing to provide cover?"

I would say that as fellow members of the "ruling class",they would prefer not to deal with the public fallout from such revelations.Crowd control-as in control of the crowd of US,not the terrorist crowd-is paramount to them;all of them.They can deal with terrorists,we might be a bit more difficult of a problem if we knew too much.

9 posted on 03/04/2004 6:15:10 PM PST by John W
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To: John W
Well, that's pretty cynical. I like it.

Unfortunately, it's the only logical answer. The blue dress was nothing. WTC '93, OKC, Waco and Elian Gonzalez were the real scandals.

In light of the willful neglect of terrorism, the murder of Americans and the armed enforcement of Castro's foreign policy by the Executive branch, lying under oath was like jaywalking.

It bugs me to no end that the Republicans are so afraid to confront them on it.

But remember the FBI files.....
10 posted on 03/04/2004 6:26:58 PM PST by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org ** G-d may not be a Republican, but Satan is definitely a Democrat!)
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To: Rummyfan
Simple. He would expose the terrorists plots, and Clinton would be history.
11 posted on 03/04/2004 6:39:59 PM PST by Rennes Templar
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To: John W
I think the other thing is, more convetionally politically oriented, is that GW wanted to run the country in a new direction. If he would have gone into Clintons dirt, he would have been a footnote in the background for many months, while we would have been surfeited in a mass of media droolings.
12 posted on 03/04/2004 6:45:03 PM PST by Rennes Templar
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To: ovrtaxt; John W
Agree with both of you.
I was pissed at Ashcroft for wanting to get McVeigh to assume room temperaure instead of answereing questions.

I love many things about Dubya but I too am bugged by him not confronting the Clintoon rascals.

13 posted on 03/04/2004 6:53:35 PM PST by I'mAllRightJack
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14 posted on 03/04/2004 7:36:18 PM PST by terilyn
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To: I'mAllRightJack
As you can see,we took this discussion down a rather unpopular road here on FR.Not only unpopular,but,given the lack of feedback-indefensible?
15 posted on 03/05/2004 3:10:59 PM PST by John W
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To: John W
Sadly, they have poor memories.
16 posted on 03/05/2004 7:54:14 PM PST by I'mAllRightJack
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