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1 posted on 03/04/2004 9:43:16 AM PST by NYer
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Song of the Angels
William-Adolphe Bouguereau

What is more tender and beautiful than a mother and a child?

Catholic Ping - let me know if you want on/off this list


2 posted on 03/04/2004 9:45:36 AM PST by NYer (Ad Jesum per Mariam)
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To: NYer
Sounds clear and simple to me.
3 posted on 03/04/2004 9:46:49 AM PST by fml ( You can twist perception, reality won't budge. -RUSH)
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To: NYer
I thought the baby in question was Michael Eisner.
4 posted on 03/04/2004 9:47:46 AM PST by Migjagger
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To: NYer
A lot of people wondered about this one.
5 posted on 03/04/2004 9:48:01 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: NYer
The daughter of a co-worker said, "It's the Anti-christ." Everyone I relate this to remarks, "D'oh!" (or something to that effect).
6 posted on 03/04/2004 9:48:04 AM PST by Eala (Sacrificing tagline fame for... TRAD ANGLICAN RESOURCE PAGE: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
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"I believe the Devil is real, but I don't believe he shows up too often with horns and smoke and a forked tail. The devil is smarter than that. Evil is alluring, attractive. It looks almost normal, almost good—but not quite.

That explains a lot about the period between 1992-and 2000.

7 posted on 03/04/2004 9:48:24 AM PST by ilgipper
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"it's evil distorting what's good"

The moment a thing is strange is when it is the most familiar...

9 posted on 03/04/2004 9:52:12 AM PST by BossLady
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To: NYer
I think it was excessive exposure to Ingmar Bergman films.
11 posted on 03/04/2004 9:57:50 AM PST by Stentor
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"Again," said Gibson, "it's evil distorting what's good. What is more tender and beautiful than a mother and a child? So the Devil takes that and distorts it just a little bit. Instead of a normal mother and child you have an androgynous figure holding a 40-year-old 'baby' with hair on his back. It is weird, it is shocking, it's almost too much—just like turning Jesus over to continue scourging him on his chest is shocking and almost too much, which is the exact moment when this appearance of the Devil and the baby takes place."

The movie's okay, I guess, but I prefer the book.

12 posted on 03/04/2004 9:59:39 AM PST by Agnes Heep
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The Passion of the Christ ping!

Interesting information.
13 posted on 03/04/2004 10:06:12 AM PST by CSM (Looking for a stay at home mom for my future offspring!)
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Then we shot her almost in slow motion so you don't see her blink—that's not normal.

Like Michael Kinsley, Marshall Applewhite, Wesley Clark, Jean-Bertrand Aristide--all noted non-blinkers.

18 posted on 03/04/2004 10:10:40 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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It is weird, it is shocking, it's almost too much—just like turning Jesus over to continue scourging him on his chest is shocking and almost too much, which is the exact moment when this appearance of the Devil and the baby takes place."

I needed that "too-muchness." I let my emotional defenses down, and the act of turning Jesus over broke right through them. It hit me right in the heart. It hit me at a very visceral level, and it was very necessary. I'll never forget that scene. It has forever changed my mental image of the scourging.

21 posted on 03/04/2004 10:13:37 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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No wonder Andrew Sullivan HATES this movie. Androgyny is a particularly suitable way of depicting evil? What a proposition for our culture to digest!
22 posted on 03/04/2004 10:14:29 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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What's Up With the Ugly Baby?

I didn't know Helen Thomas had a cameo in this movie??!

23 posted on 03/04/2004 10:16:17 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("By all that we hold dear on this Earth I bid you stand, men of the West!")
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It'd be silly to argue with Gibson about his own meaning, but I took it to refer to the seed of the serpent in Genesis 3;15 (to which the film's opening scenes already alluded), as Satan mockingly watches the Seed of the woman.

Dan
26 posted on 03/04/2004 10:18:30 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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That's what evil is about, taking something that's good and twisting it a little bit."

A perfect description of the queer-marriage thing.

27 posted on 03/04/2004 10:22:04 AM PST by fella
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To: NYer
Gibson: "... That's what evil is about, taking something that's good and twisting it a little bit."

I don't know about twisted, but does swollen with evil count?
28 posted on 03/04/2004 10:27:20 AM PST by upchuck (I am upchuck and I approved this message because... well, just because.)
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ping!
29 posted on 03/04/2004 10:31:24 AM PST by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F’in Kerry)
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To: NYer
he portrayed Satan [as] androgynous ... Evil is alluring, attractive. It looks almost normal, almost good—but not quite ... That's what evil is about, taking something that's good and twisting it a little bit.

A fitting description of the homosexual lobby

30 posted on 03/04/2004 10:32:13 AM PST by SpyGuy
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To: NYer
Good post - thanks!
32 posted on 03/04/2004 10:43:13 AM PST by talleyman (Satan is the Father of Lies - Satan is a Democrat)
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