Report: Israel broke Iranian code

Jerusalem Post ^ | Mar. 2, 2004 | Yaakov Katz

[Alouette]

A secret Israeli intelligence unit, known as Unit 8200, broke a sophisticated Iranian code enabling Israel to monitor communications, including contacts with Pakistan regarding the development of Iranian nuclear weapons, the New Yorker magazine reported on Tuesday.

"On a trip to the Middle East last month, I was told that a number of years ago the Israeli signals-intelligence agency, known as Unit 8200, broke a sophisticated Iranian code and began monitoring communications that included talk between Iran and Pakistan about Iran's burgeoning nuclear-weapons program" Investigative reporter Seymour M. Hersh wrote in the article.

According to the report, Israeli intelligence has created strong ties in Iran over the year, some of which exist till today. Hersh writes that the investigation by the International Atomic Energy Agency (I.A.E.A.) into Iranian nuclear capability was spurred by Israeli intelligence findings which were relayed to the atomic agency via the National Council of Resistance of Iran.

According to the report, the findings, which showed that senior officials in Teheran and Islamabad had frequent conversations regarding the I.A.E.A. investigations, were also shared with United Sates intelligence services.

"The interpretation is the issue here," a former intelligence official is quoted as saying in the report. "If you set the buzzwords aside, the substance is that the Iranians were saying, 'We've got to play with the I.A.E.A. We don't want to blow our cover, but we have to show some movement. There's no way we're going against world public opinion—no way. We've got to show that we're cooperating and get the Europeans on our side.'"

Hersh reports that he met with a senior Israeli intelligence officer in Tel Aviv who has access to the secret Iran-Pakistan contacts and was told that Israel remains convinced that "the Iranians do not intend to give up the bomb.

"What Iran did was report to the I.A.E.A. the information that was already out in the open and which they cannot protect. There is much that is not exposed," he said.

[sheik yerbouty]

At this juncture in time, I would call you a jihadist enabler.

[sheik yerbouty]

He just got out of jail, spouting the jihadist cause. maybe it saved his butt(literally) in prison.

[Gunslingr3]

At this juncture in time, I would call you a jihadist enabler.

Maybe you can tell me what America has bought with the billions of tax dollars and thousands of lives we've lost to be a part of the Middle East's wars.

[Gunslingr3]

I would agree to that with any nation in theory. But in reality, we can not do that because the enemies who would destroy Israel are out to destroy us.

Because we funnel billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to their enemy and have U.S. troops on their soil.

That is called reality and it must be dealt with by us, or face the consequences.

One way to deal with it is to not throw your nation into the wars of others.

You fight the enemy where they are, you don't wait until you have to fight them on your own soil.

Which is what AQ saw when we put troops in Saudi. Next thing you know they're setting off bombs in the U.S., attacking U.S. warships, and blowing up U.S. embassies. Cause and effect is beyond some people's grasp apparently.

Tell me, what do you think America has gained by pouring billions of dollars into the Middle East (Isreal and despotic arab regimes alike), not to mention the thousands of lives lost once we embroiled ourselves in their wars?

[gaspar]

The info seems to have surfaced thanks to journalist Seymour Hersch. He also wrote a book and articles on the Israeli atomic weapons project. He is a curious man who leads a one-man campaign to destroy the State of Israel.

[sheik yerbouty]

Tell me how Egypt and Saudi arabia used their $$? You seem more upset over a tragic event in 1967, than 9/11 and its 3000 dead, along with the consequent war on jihadists. They would destroy America and all of Western civilization if they could. BTW, I have always thought that whoever ordered the attack on the USS Liberty should have been hanged, but I'll bet that is not your real issue.

[Zack Nguyen]

According to Helms autobiography, at risk of being declared disloyal, the CIA consistently sent reports to LBJ that essentially said the war was being lost.

Dick Helms opinion is worth listening to. He remained DCI for eight years.

I am not expert on the Liberty incident. Frankly I would prefer to believe it was a mistake. I made my point that suspecting Israel's intentions in attacking our ship was not in and of itself evidence for anti-semitism. That was all I wanted to say. If someone has ulterior motives in mentioning the attack, then that is their business, not mine.

[Poohbah]

According to Helms autobiography, at risk of being declared disloyal, the CIA consistently sent reports to LBJ that essentially said the war was being lost.

Bullcrap. I've read the declassified NIEs from that period--to hear the CIA tell it, we were winning handily.

[American in Israel]

Sounds to me like you have your own intelligence problems.

ROTFL, now that was a good one...

[Indie]

My post dealt with the answers to all of those questions, except why we pay money to third world countries who hate us. My answer to that is STOP IMMEDIATELY...because it has bought us nothing. On that we agree.

The war at hand is as much ours as Israel's, as I've already explained.

Not involving ourselves [capitulation] would not have stopped 9/11 nor will it stop the Muslim terrorists who would destroy us no matter what we do. Weakness will make it happen faster.

Does Bush capitulating the the Rats to appear moderate help him? Of course not. The same logic is valid here. The defense rests.

We will have to agree to disagree...except on giving money to other countries, which should have been stopped a long time ago, except that both parties are globalists, and it will never happen until the conservatives take over the Rep party, which is now run by liberal globalist elites who do not reflect the base of the Republican party..and/or until hell freezes over and we get representatives in government and a President who are constitutionalists.

[Khan Noonian Singh]

FYI.

[westerfield]

I thought freepers would be more sophisticated and not fall for this ridiculous piece of propaganda. If Israel had actually broken Iran's code, do you think they would be so stupid as to make this fact public knowledge and destroy their ability to continue to receive further intelligence in the future? This is just public relations to gather up support for when Israel decides it needs to take out Iran's nuclear operations, or to put pressure on its allies to deal with this problem

[Gunslingr3]

Tell me how Egypt and Saudi arabia used their $$?

To keep their resident populations under their respective despot's thumbs, what else.

You seem more upset over a tragic event in 1967, than 9/11 and its 3000 dead, along with the consequent war on jihadists.

We've taken causualties from all sides since our decision to involve ourselves in the Middle East's wars. My question still stands - what have the billions of dollars spent and thousands of lives lost actually gained us besides more wars?

They would destroy America and all of Western civilization if they could.

BUT, they can't. Indeed, they can't even destroy little Israel. They didn't start fighting us until we elected to jump into their wars. That's an inescapable fact.

BTW, I have always thought that whoever ordered the attack on the USS Liberty should have been hanged, but I'll bet that is not your real issue.

They could have started with the mf in the WH who called off the carrier air support.

[Zack Nguyen]

In any case, I'm not going to claim that Helms is mentally incompetent. His opinion is valid. Whatever, this issue is hardly important enough to argue about. God bless.

[sheik yerbouty]

In concept, foreign aid is meant to influence the behavior of the nations who receive it. Sometimes it achieves the desired result; sometimes it doesn't.

[Gunslingr3]

Not involving ourselves [capitulation]

Sorry, not involving yourself in the war isn't capitulation, it's neutrality.

would not have stopped 9/11 nor will it stop the Muslim terrorists who would destroy us no matter what we do.

9/11 was part of a series of attacks that began AFTER the United States sent it's soldiers, sworn to defend the Constitution of the United States, to the Saudi Kingdom to protect their despot and help another get back on the throne dying European colonials carved for him. They're not fighting us for the hell of it, they're fighting us for having soldiers on their soil. Let them fight their crappy governments instead.

until hell freezes over and we get representatives in government and a President who are constitutionalists.

If we had that we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.

[nuconvert]

Whoa.....this is a hardhat area......

[Turbodog]

The intel we received from Israel through the years on the Soviets, American weaponry vs. Soviet weaponry, and other various and sundry intels has more than paid 10 fold back in return what we have given Israel in aid over the years. Not to mention that the aid has also bought off Israel’s defense industry from competing with our own defense industry and something in which she is very capable of doing. Indeed, it is a requirement that Israel return much of that aid back to the US in the form of purchases from our defense industry at non-discounted prices, representing a boon to America workers and taxpayers. Moreover, because of the immense strategic importance of the Middle East to our national security, if Israel weren’t a strategic ally, the US would be forced at a minimum to maintain several military bases with the troop deployments and equipment to man them in various locations in and around the region costing the US taxpayers billions more than the aid the US sends to Israel on a year-to-year basis.

Oh, by the way, haven’t you heard, the USS Liberty incident was finally unequivocally cleared up last year. It was just one of those accidents of war that so often happens in the fog of battle. I know, how disappointing it must be for you! And if you believe that the Jews are the source of all evil, including 9/11, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d really like to sell you.

[cpdiii]

So where do you go from here? Should we abandon Israel as an ally? Cut off relations? Support Hamas? It is rather tiring to see people say "USS Liberty" or "Remember the Liberty" and nothing else. Yes it was tragic, but WHAT NOW?

We should support Israel where we have a common interest and in Areas we do not have a common interest we should not.

[Gunslingr3]

Indeed, it is a requirement that Israel return much of that aid back to the US in the form of purchases from our defense industry at non-discounted prices, representing a boon to America workers and taxpayers.

It's a 'boon' to American taxpayes to buy airplanes for another nation's military? Why not increase this 'boon' a hundredfold! We'll all be rich, or maybe you'll realize you didn't think something through...

And if you believe that the Jews are the source of all evil, including 9/11, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I?d really like to sell you.

This is the type of 'have you stopped beating your wife' smear a place like Freerepublic could do without. Why not stick to what's written instead of imposing imagined bogeymen on people.

What I believe is that it doesn't help the U.S. to jump in the middle of the Middle East's wars. We've earned nothing but billions in expenses, thousands dead, and a government at home bent on wasting evermore of our production to provide us 'security' from the crap they stir up by marching our men and women in the military around the globe like a game of Risk.