Posted on 03/02/2004 6:24:22 AM PST by Alouette
A secret Israeli intelligence unit, known as Unit 8200, broke a sophisticated Iranian code enabling Israel to monitor communications, including contacts with Pakistan regarding the development of Iranian nuclear weapons, the New Yorker magazine reported on Tuesday.
"On a trip to the Middle East last month, I was told that a number of years ago the Israeli signals-intelligence agency, known as Unit 8200, broke a sophisticated Iranian code and began monitoring communications that included talk between Iran and Pakistan about Iran's burgeoning nuclear-weapons program" Investigative reporter Seymour M. Hersh wrote in the article.
According to the report, Israeli intelligence has created strong ties in Iran over the year, some of which exist till today. Hersh writes that the investigation by the International Atomic Energy Agency (I.A.E.A.) into Iranian nuclear capability was spurred by Israeli intelligence findings which were relayed to the atomic agency via the National Council of Resistance of Iran.
According to the report, the findings, which showed that senior officials in Teheran and Islamabad had frequent conversations regarding the I.A.E.A. investigations, were also shared with United Sates intelligence services.
"The interpretation is the issue here," a former intelligence official is quoted as saying in the report. "If you set the buzzwords aside, the substance is that the Iranians were saying, 'We've got to play with the I.A.E.A. We don't want to blow our cover, but we have to show some movement. There's no way we're going against world public opinion—no way. We've got to show that we're cooperating and get the Europeans on our side.'"
Hersh reports that he met with a senior Israeli intelligence officer in Tel Aviv who has access to the secret Iran-Pakistan contacts and was told that Israel remains convinced that "the Iranians do not intend to give up the bomb.
"What Iran did was report to the I.A.E.A. the information that was already out in the open and which they cannot protect. There is much that is not exposed," he said.
Admiral Kimmel ?
"So likewise, a passionate attachment of one Nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite Nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest, in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter, without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite Nation of privileges denied to others, which is apt doubly to injure the Nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained; and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens, (who devote themselves to the favorite nation,) facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation."
Tell me, Aynrandfreak, what has America purchased with the blood of several thousand citizens and the expense of billions of U.S. taxpayer proceeds to be part of the Middle East's wars?
Existing relationship? Tell me, before Jimminy Carter tried to buy 'peace' between Egypt and Israel with annual payments of billions of dollars from the U.S. taxpayer, what was the 'existing relationship' with Israel that caused us to lose thousands of Americans and spend billions of dollars being a player in Middle Eastern wars?
Dwight Eisenhower, had to get the Sinai and the canal back for our Egyptian allies. And now it's a priority to get a state for our palestinian allies.
Sorry you have such a problem with Israel, oh well. Do you have anything to add to the topic of the thread?
Peter Golden in his "authorized biography" of Max M. Fisher "Quiet Diplomat" (1992) relates that in October 1965 Fisher met with President Eisenhower in Gettysburg to get agreement to accept the U.J.A. medal for his role in the liberation of the Nazi concentration camps twenty years earlier. French General Pierre Keonig leader of the French Resistance and British Field Marshall Alexander were also to be honored. Golden reports that toward the end of the visit Eisenhower "wistfully commented 'You know, Max, looking back at Suez, I regret what I did. I never should have pressured Israel to evacuate the Sinai'" (all references are to pages xvii and xvix).
Maybe the Israeli's were pissed to be fighting over the same territory we forced them to give back once before. Our 'existing relationship' before Jimminy Carter started shovelling the Middle East our money and getting terrorists in return was to tell Israel what to do?
And now it's a priority to get a state for our palestinian allies.
The 'allies' that danced in the streets and passed out candy on 9/11? It be funny if it wasn't my money and my friends being wasted on that craphole called the Middle East.
That is obviously an incomplete sentence. Let me correct it. "We've got to show that we're cooperating and get the Europeans and DEMOCRATS on our side."
Perspective, son.
Damn! You beat me to it! Exactly what I was going to say! As long as this thread's going off topic, how 'bout them Marlins? ;-)
Would dead before Dec 13th, 2001 suffice?
Shouldn't be too hard of a trick to turn.
That's where the "Or maybe... Nah" comes from...
No. I blame American presidents for involving the U.S. in them.
Did Israel make Saddam invade Kuwait? You imply that our support for Israel "caused" 9/11. Now you're a justifier of terrorism too.
I didn't say it was justification. If I step on your toe and you sock me in the eye, you might have something you hold up as a cause or reason for your action (my having stepped on your toe), but that doesn't justify your action. The U.S. was attacked on 9/11 for the same reason it was attacked by AQ throughout the 90's. Funneling U.S. tax dollars to Israel (we get absolutely zero credit for the billions funnelled to the despot in Egypt) and U.S. troops on Saudi soil.
If we'd only let the Islamists take over Israel & Kashmir & Europe, then the Islamists wouldn't have any gripe with us?
Newsflash - Israel has nukes, India has nukes, and European states have nukes. Why do you think Americans must be bled and taxed to defend them?
And you dare claim to love America?
Yes. If I lived in Europe I'd fight for it, if I lived in Israel I'd fight for it, if I lived in India, I'd fight for it - I wouldn't expect the Americans to do my fighting. You still haven't told me what we've purchased with the thousands of American lives and billions of American tax dollars poured into the Middle East.
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