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Suicide bombers coming to U.S.?
wnd ^ | 3/1/04

Posted on 03/01/2004 1:00:14 PM PST by knak

Israeli raid turns up terror plot against Americans, Europeans

A document discovered during a recent Israeli army raid on some West Bank financial institutions found payrolls being prepared for terrorists trained to commit suicide attacks – not just in Israel but in the U.S. and Europe, Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin reports.

Israel has reportedly shared the information with the intelligence agencies of friendly countries, including the U.S. and Russia, according to the premium, online intelligence newsletter.

In addition, new information about the ways and means of suicide bombers has been shared indirectly with the governments of Saudi Arabia and the Persian Gulf states.

G2B has learned Israeli specialists are now working closely with Russian agents of the Federal Security Force, sharing with them information on the technology and means of preparing suicide bombs to be used by individual shahids – or "suicide martyrs."

In the course of the latest raids, Israel seized millions in cash from four Palestinian bank branches – much of it sent by Iran, Syria and Lebanese Hezbollah guerrillas to fund Palestinian terrorists.

The joint operation by police, army and the Shin Bet security service last Wednesday marked Israel's largest-scale effort in more than three years of fighting to stop the flow of funds to Palestinian terrorist groups, including from Hezbollah.

Troops were accompanied by computer experts from two of the banks, who had been arrested overnight. Soldiers covered the banks' cameras with sacks or disabled them, and confined employees to back rooms, witnesses said.

"The purpose of this operation is to impair the funneling of funds, which oil the wheels of terror against Israel," an Israeli army statement said.

Israeli forces checked several hundred bank accounts, some belonging to Hamas and Islamic Jihad, security sources said. An Israeli official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the forces were also looking for evidence of possible involvement by Yasser Arafat in funding terror attacks.

The forces took the equivalent of $6.5 million to $9 million from the bank vaults, corresponding to the amount of money found in the targeted accounts, security sources said.

The operation is part of the "global war" on terrorist funding, an Israeli army statement said.

Suicide bombers are growing more sophisticated, say G2B sources. Israeli counter-terror experts who participated in a South Carolina conference introduced a number of photos and actual products of suicide bombers' equipment including carry-on bags and briefcases loaded with pipe bombs and activated by cell phones. The cell-phone system is described as a method used by a team of attackers – one is the mule carrying the bomb and the other dials the activating number at the right moment. This method is also designed to avoid last-minute hesitations by the bomb carrier.

Police experts say the method of building suicide bomb vests has advanced by the use of more sophisticated explosives and techniques of flattening the charges so they can be concealed easily into clothing items. A police source told G2B terrorists are developing such bombs knowing they will have to improve concealment towards the coming spring and summer. Climate conditions will automatically raise suspicions of whoever wears heavy, winter type, items when the temperatures are high.

The use of better designed suicide bombs will have an effect on other terror intentions such as attacks on airlines or penetrating offices guarded by traditional methods only.

While suicide bomb attacks are common in Israel, they have been unheard of in the U.S. They are on the increase, however, against U.S. forces in Iraq. Last week Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said the No. 1 threat to the new government and U.S. forces in Iraq comes from suicide bombers.


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KEYWORDS: g2bulletin; jihadinamerica; jihadineurope; josephfarah
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To: NRA2BFree
Nothing like extrapolating from a total falsehood.

There will be no mass killings of Arabs come what may. That is not the way Americans act.

Even if there were there would be no mass seizures of guns.

Silliness squared is still silliness.
21 posted on 03/01/2004 1:25:18 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Look at how the Israelis just building a wall has almost stopped them over there.

But where is 'our' wall?

22 posted on 03/01/2004 1:27:39 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: knak
This is a scary thought and I honestly have wondered why it hasn't happened already. While the shock of 3000 dead and the WTCs coming down were tremendous, 3000 deaths in hundreds of small suicide bombings would be far more disasterous to our economy. Just look at the effect of the 15 or so deaths due to the DC sniper.

I hope it never happens, because it is damn near impossible to control in a free society. As crazy as this may sound, we are better off with terrorists planning a few huge attacks than a bunch of small ones, because huge attacks take more planning and are easier to stop. Little can be done about the small bombings.

Almost all of my family lives in Israel, so I know a little about the affect of these constant attacks.

23 posted on 03/01/2004 1:28:20 PM PST by undeniable logic
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To: Protagoras
those who threaten my country,my family

sorry if i seem all hardlined but the way things have been with all the anti-bush idiots all the crap john kerry pulls

now suicide bombers wanna head here? let em try,god forbid after the first bombing the gloves should be off,just indiscrimnatly bomb the middle east,im pretty much convinced that there just a buncha blood thirsty possesed barbarians and should be dealt with accordingly

if i were president i woulda bombed them so bad and the minute and of the rats critcize me id tell them either shut up or get the hell outta my country you have no interest in protecting it so somebody has to and its not you,

24 posted on 03/01/2004 1:28:42 PM PST by MetalHeadConservative35 (I may sound insane,truth is im just fed up there is a difference)
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To: blackie
Yep. And just when our forces might be getting tired and rundown from a long occupation we will be rotating over 100,000 new, fresh soldiers eager to kick some asshole butt.

And guess what? The murdering lunatics don't get to rotate out, just die. And we have just the right guys to help them do that. Making our boys come all that way and go to all that trouble is not going to dampen their desire to kill this scum.

Their best hope would be to jump massively into support for Horseface since that is their only chance of winning.
25 posted on 03/01/2004 1:30:31 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: knak
".....looking for evidence of possible involvement by Yasser Arafat in funding terror attacks....."

If found to be true, can we then assume that the PA have unilaterally declared war on the US and we are, in fact, at war with Arafat? Should we then carpet-bomb the Pali-controlled areas to destroy all 'enemy combatants'?

26 posted on 03/01/2004 1:34:53 PM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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To: DoctorMichael
Sounds like a plan.
27 posted on 03/01/2004 1:48:30 PM PST by hershey
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To: knak
I'm surprised this hasn't happened yet.
28 posted on 03/01/2004 1:48:55 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: DoctorMichael
We don't carpet bomb anymore. It's not cost effective in many different respects. With that aside, if the US wished, it could dimantle the PA , and kill all "enemy combatants", in quick manner and be done with this mess. This could be done either directly or through proxy. Surely it would cause other problems. It would remove the one of the big obstacles to peace in the region, though.
29 posted on 03/01/2004 1:54:58 PM PST by Turbo Pig (If They Don't Respect US, They Should At Least Fear US.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Amen Brother!
30 posted on 03/01/2004 2:18:58 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Strange but true: it's in terrorist's best interest not to attack until after the elections. Any attack would strengthen their enemy, W.
31 posted on 03/01/2004 2:24:37 PM PST by txhurl
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To: MetalHeadConservative35
Unlike Israel, we won't have the worlds only superpower breathing down our necks telling us to "play nice" with the terrorists.
32 posted on 03/01/2004 2:27:22 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: txflake
RE: "Strange but true: it's in terrorist's best interest not to attack until after the elections. Any attack would strengthen their enemy, W."

I think that is one of the main reasons there's been no attacks since 9/11.

Two other reason are the great job being done by authorities at all levels and, perhaps, the "American" Muslims have asked the radicals to cool it fearing a violent backlash this time.

33 posted on 03/01/2004 2:39:54 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (Benedict Arnold was a hero for both sides in the same war, too!)
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To: tractorman
The Islamo-bombers better disguise themselves as little old blue haired ladies or the Muslim community will be rudely ushered out of the USA.

Or wish they had left.

34 posted on 03/01/2004 3:17:53 PM PST by Vinnie
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To: knak
I don't think we need worry about suicide bombers nearly as much as remote controlled bombs, either in vehicles or left in crowded places.

There are plenty of opportunities for carnage without suicide.

35 posted on 03/01/2004 4:21:41 PM PST by Gritty ("The world will continue to be the House Of War until it comes under Islamic rule (Koran)-M.Sharon)
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To: Turbo Pig; hershey
"....carpet bomb...."

....Sounds like a plan.....done with this mess....

LOL

While I was posing an over-the-top rhetorical question, I am still wondering (pragmatically): What is Error-fat's pucker-factor right now if this IS in fact true {....The direct ordering of terrorist acts on Americans or in America by a paramilitary organization under his direct command}?

My guess is he'll deny everything on a stack of Korans and claim any incriminating documents have been falsified by the devious Joos and Satan-incarnate, Sharon.

36 posted on 03/01/2004 4:31:17 PM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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To: knak
That would only gaurantee a Bush reelection - the last thing the terrorists want. If it does happen, it would be after elections.
37 posted on 03/01/2004 4:31:27 PM PST by airborne (lead by example)
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To: Bikers4Bush
Not "if" but "when" is what my company has been saying since 9-11 -- www.ssafprotection.com

If they find someone willing to die, it is an easy operation. A suicide bomber will carry about a 25 to 30-lb weapon in a pack near his crotch. It will be made of fertilizer, diesel fuel, shrapnel and other items I won't mention here. He will use an inordinate amount of perfume to disguise the smell. They can do it anytime, anywhere. We have done scenario building and discussed 10 to 20 simultaneous suicide bombs detonating in malls across the nation. They wouldn't have to detonate in the largest cities. They would do it in the red states so that we would be afraid everywhere. Imagine what it would do to our economy.

38 posted on 03/01/2004 4:31:29 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: DoctorMichael
What amazes me is that Arafat gets away with everything. He's looted all the aid extorted from the West, kept who knows how many hundreds of thousands of Palestinians crammed in those wretched camps for years. They have to be the dumbest people on earth, to live like that for the glory of Arafat and his pals. They could have had a state years ago, if they'd left Israel to exist in peace. As far as that goes, they outpopulate the Jews, so at some point the Palestinians living in Israel could vote to join Palestine.(Israel wouldn't allow that, of course, but it would show up on some UN agenda.)Young men with lots of testosterone, no hope, no real lives, are terrorist cannon fodder. When you think about it, we can blame Arafat for Osama bin Laden and 9/11. That's where Osama got his ideas. What we need is cold fusion from dandelions, so we can tell the Middle East to sell their oil somewhere else. But the liberals would wring their hands and say the Middle East has nothing else to sell but rugs, and we can't leave them to starve. Do I sound depressed? Sorry, I live in MA. and have to put up with Botoxboy and fat Teddy all the time.
39 posted on 03/01/2004 4:50:34 PM PST by hershey
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To: hershey
What amazes me is that Arafat gets away with everything.

I too am astounded how this fetid bag of feces manages to still be in the position of authority he's in. Arab Street be damned: Off him.

In the event something does show up 'on-the-books', I'm wondering whether things will be handled like we've handled the bribing of foreign government officials by Saddam, like in France: Quietly, through back-channels, or through a private visit by Colon Bowel, who explains our 'displeasure' (ie. a slap on the wrist).

Do I sound depressed? Sorry, I live in MA. and have to put up with Botoxboy and fat Teddy all the time.

LOL. I grew up in Taxachewzits, left when I was 23 and hope I never have to live there again.

40 posted on 03/01/2004 5:10:05 PM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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