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Electoral College Breakdown, Installment Five
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Posted on 02/22/2004 6:58:20 AM PST by Dales

Due to popular demand, I am going to revive my poll tracking and analysis that I did during the 2000 election season. I will be starting things a bit differently this year. Instead of starting off with a comprehensive overview of the entire nation, I am going to start by looking at five states at a time. For this fourth installment, the random state generator presented me with Kentucky, Michigan, Rhode Island, Idaho, and Alaska.


Kentucky
Electoral Votes: 8
2000 Result
Bush 57%
Gore 41%

Background: Johnson, Carter (first time) and Clinton (twice) carried the Bluegrass state. Nixon (twice), Reagan (twice) and both Bushes won here. It is very likely that Clinton would not have carried Kentucky either time if not for Perot. In 1992 Clinton won by three points with Perot capturing 13%, and in 1993 Clinton won by 1% with Perot capturing 9%.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat
10/23/03 Associated Press Link LV 4% Bush 47% Unnamed Democrat 29%
2/4/04 Courier Journal NA LV 4% Bush 55% Unnamed Democrat 38%
2/16/04 Survey USA Link LV 3.8% Bush 57% Unnamed Democrat 41%

Punditry: Bush carried it by 16, and the polls show the same margin. Things have changed, but this has stayed the same. Strong Advantage for Bush


Michigan
Electoral Votes: 17
2000 Result
Gore 51%
Bush 46%

Background: 2-5-3 in the last ten elections. Without Perot, it likely would have been 2-6-2. Since Lyndon Johnson, only Reagan in his re-elect has approached 60%.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat
5/26/03 Epic/MRA Link 400 RV 5% Bush 48% Unnamed Democrat 41%
9/21/03 Mitchell Research Link 600 LV 4% Bush 44% Unnamed Democrat 49%
12/10/03 Survey USA Link 724 LV 3.7% Bush 53% Kerry 43%
2/3/04 Survey USA Link 724 LV 3.7% Bush 46% Kerry 51%

Punditry: The polls in Michigan have basically oscillated around the even mark. When Bush is enjoying good weeks, he is up. When the Democrats are having good weeks, they lead. Couple that with the relatively close result last time, and the state's historical role as a battleground is shown to be a likely reprise. Right now, I am categorizing it a Slight Advantage for the Democrats.


Rhode Island
Electoral Votes: 4
2000 Result
Gore 61%
Bush 32%

Background: Nine of the last eleven times, Rhode Island has gone for the Democrat. The two exceptions? When Republican Presidents that the state rejected originally ran for re-election (Reagan and Nixon).

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat
2/7/04 Brown University NA RV 4.6% Bush 31% Unnamed Democrat 53%

Punditry: The trend of RI voting for incumbent Republican presidents was broken when Clinton defeated the elder Bush. While if Bush had gotten 100% of the Perot vote, he would have won, he would have lost if he had gotten three quarters of it, so the blame cannot be placed on Perot. The younger Bush is not going to revive that tendency. Rhode Island is Safe for the Democrats.


Idaho
Electoral Votes: 4
2000 Result
Bush 67%
Gore 28%

Background: LBJ beat Goldwater by a point. That's the best the Democrats have to show here since 1948.

Polling Data: There currently is no publically available polling information. I don't expect that to change any time soon.

Punditry: Safe for Bush


Alaska
Electoral Votes: 3
2000 Result
Bush 59%
Gore 28%

Background: No Democrat wins since Johnson. Perot came within 2 points of Clinton the first time.

Polling Data: Don't hold your breath.

Punditry: Alaska is Safe for Bush.


Summary Table
  Bush Democrat
  Safe Strong Lean Slight Tossup Slight Lean Strong Safe
  ND (3) CO (9) GA (15) NV (5) - NM (5) CA (55) NY (31) VT (3)
  AL (9) SC (8) NC (15) FL (27) - ME (4) - DE (3) MA (12)
  MT (3) KY (8) MO (11) - - MI (17) - - DC (3)
  WY (3) - VA (13) - - - - - RI (4)
  UT (5) - - - - - - - -
  ID (4) - - - - - - - -
  AK (3) - - - - - - - -
Designation
Total:
30 25 54 32 - 26 55 31 22
Candidate
Total:
114 58 111
Undesignated electoral votes: 255


Next installment: Kansas, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Maryland, and Mississippi.

Historical election data are located at Dave Leip's invaluable website.

Installment One
Installment Two
Installment Three
Installment Four


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska; US: Idaho; US: Kentucky; US: Michigan; US: Rhode Island
KEYWORDS: 2004; dales; ecb; electionpresident; electoralcollege; gwb2004
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1 posted on 02/22/2004 6:58:21 AM PST by Dales
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To: Dales
Great Thread!
2 posted on 02/22/2004 7:02:04 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Dales
bump.
3 posted on 02/22/2004 7:03:43 AM PST by michaelt
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To: Dales
Once again. Excellent.
4 posted on 02/22/2004 7:06:59 AM PST by Hurricane Andrew
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To: Dales
Fantastic work Dales! Thanks for the post
5 posted on 02/22/2004 7:14:12 AM PST by mylife
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To: Dales
Great post. The overall popular vote is an interesting indicator only; this is the real deal. Any way to get a ping list going?
6 posted on 02/22/2004 7:20:13 AM PST by Gordian Blade
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To: Dales
Thank you for this excellent series of threads. I am bookmarking them for reference and look forward to your updates later in the year.

I think national polls are useless as it is the electoral college that elects presidents. We need to look at the race state-by-state to see how things really stand.

If I were running the Bush campaign, there is one area I would focus my resources on and that would be the upper Midwest which is chock-full of states that Bush lost very narrowly in 2000. I'm talking Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan and lets throw in Pennsylvania as well. Those five states make up nearly 70 electoral votes that Bush was denied in 2000 and getting these states back in the GOP column would pretty much seal the deal for Bush and even put him in landslide territory.

Bush lost both Wisconsin and Iowa by just a few thousand votes - less than 5,000 in each state. He ought to get those states back easily. Minnesota, Michigan and Pennsylvania were also close and are definitely in play for 2004, with Michigan being the toughest nut to crack.

7 posted on 02/22/2004 7:21:15 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I do not like the new "Starbucks-style" coffee lids at Dunkin' Donuts)
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To: Dales
Great work-- it's good to see Bush ahead with California already in the Rats column.
8 posted on 02/22/2004 7:21:22 AM PST by atomicpossum
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To: Dales
Regarding Michigan, I see Gephart as a VP choice to bring in the Union vote...
9 posted on 02/22/2004 7:22:33 AM PST by Drango (Liberals give me a rash that even penicillin can't cure.)
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To: Gordian Blade; Neets
Ping Neets, as she is running a ping list for these. I think I caught her napping with this one though! lol
10 posted on 02/22/2004 7:28:01 AM PST by Dales
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To: SamAdams76
I have some things to say on that topic, but I am going to hold off on them until installment 11 (which will be my analysis of the overall campaign and my strategy recommendation).
11 posted on 02/22/2004 7:29:18 AM PST by Dales
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To: Drango
GOP has a tough economic issue pertaining to outsourcing of jobs overseas. GWB admininstration coming our with a report stating that outsourcing is good for the economy is handing ammo to the Dems to shoot us with. Since corporations do things for tax purposes, I think any corporation that sends jobs overseas should start losing certain tax benefits. Many tax breaks were given to help companies stay in business, expand and ultimately provide employment for Americans. If they take the tax breaks and move the jobs overseas, we the taxpayers just financed our own social detriment. If the GOP does not propose this concept at the state or federal level, the Dems will and that will cost GWB midwest states. If GWB can compromise on spending and immigration, why not prolabor/projob intervention??? I guarantee compromise on free trade/globalism is going to bring in more voters than his stand on spending and immigration.
12 posted on 02/22/2004 7:32:12 AM PST by Fee
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To: Dales; Neets
Ping Neets, as she is running a ping list

Please add me.

13 posted on 02/22/2004 7:47:46 AM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: Fee
Let Nader get into this argument, and he will be Da Man with many Democrats. No kidding. Nader is going to love this issue; he'll lap it up.
14 posted on 02/22/2004 7:47:59 AM PST by Galtoid
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To: Dales
It's going to be a busy year.

Best wishes for the family!

15 posted on 02/22/2004 7:58:01 AM PST by GEC
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To: Dales; Neets
Hey, Neets!

Whaddya think we're paying you for?!?
16 posted on 02/22/2004 8:32:27 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Dales
Idaho, I don't expect that to change any time

If we don't stop electing RINOs in Idaho, people are going to lose faith in the Republican party.

Hopefully it won't affect the presidential race.
17 posted on 02/22/2004 8:38:30 AM PST by Delphinium
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To: Dales
Electoral College Breakdown

This is very informative. I also hope to see a 2004 election map similar to the USA Today's County by County 2000 Voting Map.

This map reveals the wisdom of the Electoral College and how it serves the Republican form of government that Americans enjoy.

18 posted on 02/22/2004 8:53:28 AM PST by MosesKnows
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To: Dales
If you've started a ping list please add me.
Thanks
Dan
19 posted on 02/22/2004 8:59:48 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: Dales
Agree with all of them except Michigan, where I'm predicting an upset(against John Kerry).

My first report on Michigan - 2000 numbers - county by county

2002 numbers compared with 2000

This map goes to the township level. The blue here is republican, and the red is democrat, and a lot of those real small red 'dots' are actually small town lines of actually republican areas.

John Kerry's problem here more than anything else is his pompousness and arrogrance. This is a populist state, and 'men of the people' win here. Throw in the fact that Kerry is pro-abort to the extreme, anti-2nd Amendment to the extreme, protested the war and hung with Fonda, raised taxes, backed NAFTA, GATT, and MFN for China, and he's at a distinct disadvantage.

Not only that, he PO'ed Detroit. He did not campaign in Detroit once during the primary season, and even snubbed the NAACP. Only Al Sharpton showed up at that debate. Edwards didn't contest the state(his blunder), but Kerry just campaigned in Warren and Flint. To add to that, the Michigan Democrats moved the caucus sites at the last minutes in several places, most notably Detroit and Southfield.

If Bush can hold his own again in the Yooperland(which is usually democrat) and NE Lower, and win the spots Posthumus won that Bush lost(Macomb, Monroe), reduce his losses downriver, and drive up turnout in West Michigan and Livingston County - he'll pull it off. If Detroit stays home, it become MUCH easier.

20 posted on 02/22/2004 9:17:29 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("You know it don't come easy, the road of the gypsy" - Iron Eagle)
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