California Coastal Commission Rejects Plans For Border Fence

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[onyx]

What alternate planet have we landed on?

Time to exit planet California.

[XHogPilot]

California Coastal Commission, in a 10-0 vote, found that the harm the project would cause to sensitive habitats outweighed the security benefits...

What ever you do, please do not bother the vermin! /sarcasm

[XHogPilot]

I think we just need to direct a bunch of illegal aliens to the addresses of these commissioners and send a message to the ELF folks that a bunch of corporate polluters, CEO's and SUV drivers live at those addresses.

That wouldn't be very nice!

[risk]

Who said this?

No End to War - The Frum-Perle prescription would ensnare America in endless conflict.

[risk]

http://www.amconmag.com/3_1_04/cover.html -- PJB

[Travis McGee]

Agreed.

[BurbankKarl]

Looking north over Smugglers Gulch to US. They want to fill this gulch...and add two more fences.

Fence they want to enhance

US/Mexico border at Pacific Ocean

Colonia Libertad, Tijuana....3 feet from USA

Established footpaths into San Diego....and free benefits!

Tijuana.....or Los Angeles?

[FairOpinion]

Thanks for the pictures!

We have to do, what we have to do, to make it virtually impossible for them to come across the border.

We could always get some consultants from E. Europe, where they did have impenetrable fences with guard towers, etc -- to keep people in. Now the concept could be used here to keep illegals OUT.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!

[JustPiper]

Ping!

[Robert Drobot]

We need to model our southern border enforcement policy after Mexico's southern border enforcement policy. Deport all illegal trespassers after they get a thumping for entering Mexico.

If it's good enough for Mexico, it's good enough for America too!!!

[John O]

Migrant advocates said the fencing is part of a crackdown that has not stopped those who routinely cross the U.S.-Mexico border illegally, but only made it more dangerous. Illegal immigrants now cross the border in the deserts of Arizona and California where the blistering heat and freezing cold have contributed to hundreds of deaths.

Someone please explain to me why someone attacking these United States dying in the desert is a bad thing?

[Happy2BMe]

"If the two sides can't reach a compromise, the issue is likely to land in federal court, officials said. The U.S. government, however, holds a never-before-used trump card: Under federal law governing coastal management, the president has the power to override an unfavorable court ruling."

What else do these people who voted down the fence have to gain other than saving a few bugs and snakes?

[spacewarp]

"This triple fence is the center of untold human rights violations," said Christian Ramirez of the American Friends Service Committee.

How? If they didn't break our laws to illegally enter our country then there would be no violations. These people come across our borders repeatedly and in violation of our laws and now want us to make it safer for them to break the law. What kind of insanity is this??

Paul

[StoneColdGOP]

No, it doesn't.

[calcowgirl]

Just being inquisitive, but what kind of 13 mile fence costs $58,000,000? This isn't just plain old fence, or is it?

The $58,000,000 must be for the entire project... including roads (and land purchase?).

This from the Los Angeles Times, Feb. 11, 2004

SAN DIEGO - A group of environmental organizations Tuesday filed a federal lawsuit aimed at blocking construction of the final 3.5 miles of a 14-mile project to add two fences along the U.S.-Mexican border to thwart drug smuggling and illegal immigration.

The lawsuit asserts that the project will needlessly destroy sensitive habitat in the region near the Tijuana Estuary. The plan calls for the two fences to be built parallel to an existing border fence from the ocean to Otay Mesa. Roads would be constructed for Border Patrol agents to use.

(snip)

The first 9-plus miles of the fence project, from south of Imperial Beach past the San Ysidro border crossing, has been completed, at a cost of $10 million. The final 3.5 miles, because of the more remote location, may cost closer to $25 million, officials said.

[Frohickey]

Couldn't we just run some flood lights and extend Smuggler's Gulch? Turn it into a 24hour rifle and shotgun range, firing towards the south.