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To: jtminton
I've seen a lot of arguments for and against gay marriage. Given that the divorce rate is already above fifty percent, it's not like us straights have a moral headlock on the institution.

and although the link is made often, and I think unfairly, there is no real connection between homsexuality and pedophilia. Most child molesters are in fact heterosexual. Linking the change in marriage laws to endangering kids is a little unreasonable I think.

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15 posted on 02/17/2004 6:25:27 AM PST by Semper_guy (no trolling, just talkin'...)
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To: Semper_guy
That's because most men are heterosexual.

However, gay men (who account for a very tiny percentage of the population) account for a very disproportionate number of cases of sex abuse directed against underage males.

You have to analyze the raw data against the proportions of these individuals in society. If only 1% of the population commits 30% of a crime (this is just an example - I haven't looked up the actual stats, if they even exist) , and 99% commits the other 70%, you have a raw number of the 99% committing more crime. But when you analyze it, the 1% has a much higher incidence.

19 posted on 02/17/2004 6:34:08 AM PST by livius
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To: Semper_guy
Given that the divorce rate is already above fifty percent, it's not like us straights have a moral headlock on the institution.

All the more reason not to damage the institution even more. We should begin to rollback such nonsense as "no-fault divorce" laws that the left has foisted upon us instead of helping them to do more damage.

Anyway, the 50% figure is a mis-representation anyway. It compares the total number of new marriages per year, not the total number of existing marriages, against the number of divorces per year. Nor does it factor in the fact that many of these divorces occur among folks who marry multiple times.

.. there is no real connection between homsexuality and pedophilia. Most child molesters are in fact heterosexual.

Being that homosexuals comprise only 2-3% of the population, why does anyone think that quoting that heterosexual offenders are also in the majority would be suprising? The fact is that homosexuals comprise 30% of pedophiles, meaning that they are vastly over-represented there. That, my friend, establishes a link, albeit only from one type of sexual perversion to another. Such a link shouldn't surprise anyone.

22 posted on 02/17/2004 6:40:37 AM PST by FormerLib ("Homosexual marriage" is just another route to anarchy.)
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To: Semper_guy
Homosexuality either must be defined as sexual relations with a member of the same sex or the whole issue becomes moot; if a heterosexual male forces himself on a young boy then it is a homosexual act.

The only thing else would be to accept that all people are bisexual and then we deal with the preponderance of behavioral characteristics to make a distinction.

Gayness is more a personality concept than it is a definition of sexual behavior but, by mixing terms we may be led to believe and accept that such behavior is acceptable as a sexual outlet on an as-needed basis much as our "morning constitutional" is a part of our human ritual.

By confining the argument to one of legal benefit and cultural conformity we can force no argument better than religious proscription or the sheer tastelessness of the more common act itself.

In short, we've lost.

105 posted on 02/17/2004 10:20:20 AM PST by Old Professer
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To: Semper_guy
WRONG, there is a stong case to be made to keep gays away from children. Just think of what could happen if your wrong? Are you willing to let this experiment take place?
226 posted on 02/18/2004 1:45:08 PM PST by Exton1
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