[RunningJoke]

My point about Ray and Tim was that they are sitcom formulaic humor, if you enjoy that, good for you.

Since, I've only watched both shows less than five episodes each, I have a restricted sampling on their fatherly skills. The jokes are unfunny the plots are transparent. I'd rather read a book.

[RogerFGay]

Read a book? I'm so continuously engaged, serious, intense, absorbed, in what I normally do which involves reading, studying, analyzing, putting out; that the idiot tube is sometimes essential for me to come down. A good intense movie is better. The good thing about Tim and Ray (and I accept their classic clown contribution to sit-coms) is that their shows allowed the back drop to be a more traditional American family rather than trying to give us a morality play based on PC values.