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To: scripter
You crack me up. You're equating my reasoned debate with homosexual activism and suggest I should be booted from FR. What's the matter, can't withstand the criticism so you silence the critic? Seems awfully reminiscent of the fascist left, don't you think?

Spitzer himself has said that dismissing his survey would be to dismiss an awful lot of psychological and psychiatric research.

Is that really that profound? Think about it. You think anyone who dismisses your opinion is missing out on a lot of wisdom. So did Ross Perot and Richard Nixon. A lot of people here think they are oracles of wisdom, without whose advice the nation would be less than perfect.

Why should we think Spitzer wouldn't also fall into that category. Yet, it's undeniable that his research methodology was substandard, and it can be said with certainly that his subjects were not objective, and his results are therefore flawed.

I know it must be difficult for you to accept since his conclusion affirms your beliefs, but that doesn't change the facts.

282 posted on 02/14/2004 9:57:15 AM PST by tdadams
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To: tdadams
Speaking of ignoring facts that contradict your beliefs, this is the elephant in the room that you've side-stepped: "LeVay has also stated gay activism was the reason behind the APA declassifying homosexuality as a mental disorder."

That and the fact that there are numerous cases of homosexuals who have left the lifestyle.
285 posted on 02/14/2004 10:14:43 AM PST by FormerLib ("Homosexual marriage" is just another route to anarchy.)
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To: tdadams
Your reasoned debate comment is ridiculous. The facts have been laid out and your only response is to denigrate the facts. Simply stating that your position is identical to homosexual activists is nothing more than an observation, but seeing how you're so willing to read into what others say speaks volumes, whether that someone is a freeper, LeVay or Spitzer. If you continue to post identitically to homosexual activists I will continue to point it out.

What's profound is your unwillingness to admit Spitzer found the study convincing. So convincing that he changed his mind and that's something you have no answer to other than denigrating the study.

Deal with it. Spitzer changed his mind that homosexuals can leave the lifestyle. Deal with the fact that LeVay is a homosexual, activist and scientist and stated it was gay activism that was clearly the force that propelled the APA to declassify homosexuality.

290 posted on 02/14/2004 11:04:21 AM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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