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Vanity | Feb. 11, 2004 | Nix Two

Posted on 02/07/2004 4:31:25 PM PST by Nix 2

Gotta tell you something, people. Other than listening to the demons wail about the deficit, what difference has it made in any of your lives? None. Interest rates have not gone up. The Medicare reform bill has the rats climbing the wall because it is the first step towards its OWN slow death. Even G-d kept the Jews wandering in the wilderness until the whole generations of them that knew slavery were dead. So now, seniors have a prescription program and younger workers will have private health accounts. It took the dems a gazillion years to try to make everyone in the USA a slave to government and take over US healthcare bit by bit. This year it would have been fully government run if Gore had made it to Pennsylvania Avenue. Bush is unraveling their dream of the world under Marx.

Are you watching the teachers' union howling at the moon? They can't teach, so they blame the kids for not being able to learn. Bush gave them their chance. They are blowing it big-time. The more they try and steal our kids, the harder we fight, and the more they scream. But it will have its end and it will be under a Bush presidency. We need good minds to have better goals. No one knows that better than he does. The dems are freaking out over *No Child Left behind* because if a teacher can't teach, he/she has got to go. The dems would protect these stupid, moneygrubbers at any cost including the cost of your children's education.

Privatization of ALL healthcare is paramount if we are to maintain the best healthcare system in the world. The dems have run doctors out of practice, turned insurance companies into beancounters, claimed that pharmaceutical companies, which have given us virtually many more years to live, vile, filthy creatures who stalk the weak and the poor. Now, the first step back towards freedom is being looked at and whined about as if you so-called conservatives were personally wounded and the bleeding will never stop. The truly wounded are the democrats who see their phoney, dark, delusional world exposed to the unforgiving light of the truth. They are losing...but will you give credit? This is too pathetic. Do you let others do your thinking now?

What exactly about the immigration reform has you so riled up? You are jumping to so many bogus conclusions, I don't even know where to start. You call it amnesty, and I ask you WHEREIN lies the amnesty? Is it not a fact that no illegal will be able to get a job unless Americans expressly turn it down? And is it not further fact that Americans will receive better training for BETTER jobs because SOMEBODY believes that we have better brains and can learn better skills to come up with better ideas, instead of having the sugah-daddy dems giving everyone handouts and more unemployment compensation so they WOULDN'T go back to work. Don't you realize that only prolonged the recovery, not helped it, or me, or you? Do you realize that maybe, just maybe, some of the jobs illegals take right now will henceforth be open to our American teenagers who lost them to 40 and 50 year old illegals flipping burgers, training jobs, entry level jobs, jobs that taught our kids what it meant to have a work ethic and some responsibilty so they can stop expecting us to spoil them half to death. If they want a $150.00 pair of silly shoes, let them but them themselves. If they want a car, a little hard work never hurt anyone. Or has it truly escaped you that Americans First means young Americans as well? THIS takes a generation as well but like liberals everywhere, yesterday seems to be much too late. Well, where were you when all these things were building up? I asked someone a few years ago, right here on this board. He said "Sure, I think about it, but...I have a family and can't afford to do the right thing.

Now, Bush does the right thing, depriving no one of anything, and the crocodile tears are starting to make Conservatives look more and more like the libs with their hands constantly extended.

Are you stopping in your misplaced anger at President Bush to realize that terrorists damaged us in an excruciating way, but if Gore, or any of his ilk would have been president, they would have seized on that moment to finalize their control over us in ways that should make you thank the Lord for Bush. Gun control would be a gun ban period. We would probably be under martial law, our government would be gone, and our soldiers would be patroling OUR streets while Bin Laden was enjoying French hospitality. The Islamist State Department would be busily going about installing some form of sharia law by now. Do you want to be Canada? Then go the hell there and stop calling yourselves conservatives, because you ain't.

If you were truly conservatives, you would be stopping to think about the freedom you DIDN'T lose. We are at war. They aren't here, WE are there. You would realize that fully one fourth of the US was on fire almost at the same time. We've had megafloods. The Clinton Administration cooked the Stockmarket books to give the illusion of prosperity. Bush has unraveled the tangled yarn and then some. Do you think that was cheap? Do you realize that President Bush rolled back many of the insane enviroweenie laws that caused all that, and because of it, logging can happen again. Oil drilling can begin again. Care will be taken to stop the kind of corrupt and corrupted opposing environmental laws that did nothing to help the environment, but it sure helped to line the pockets of the UN believers of the world and their science of unreality and fishy fantasy.

Are you so nonsatisfiable that you don't realize that the man from Texas stood and faced down the UN so that they can't even get a paragraph ratified because he has them running in circles and has not much to do with the terrorists and crooks who run the damb place.

We have a good man as President. He will be even better with a bigger majority in the House and Senate. Anyone else who is, or might run, will NEVER be able to accomplish what Bush has already accomplished, and he isn't done yet...and there is NO SUCH THING as instant gratification. All that leads to his horrors down the road...like Medicare was before this reform.



TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: deficit; democrats; fauxconservative; fuzzylogic; illegals; jobs; kyoto; medicare; navelinthinker; pathetic
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To: EternalVigilance
Apparently you haven't read my posts -- again.
581 posted on 02/07/2004 11:54:26 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: Jorge
It's simple. I just have to read the words.

No need for further discussion, it's right out there in the open for everyone to see.

You're such a nag.
582 posted on 02/07/2004 11:54:26 PM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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To: EternalVigilance
Why, thank you for your patience and perserverence. I'm overjoyed you thought it was good enough to merit such a run. Facts is facts and that was a good point. It probably wouldn't have.
583 posted on 02/07/2004 11:54:54 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: FairOpinion
I've read all of your posts. It was tough, but I waded through it.
584 posted on 02/07/2004 11:55:03 PM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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To: tgslTakoma
Wah! DW.
585 posted on 02/07/2004 11:56:30 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: Nix 2
"Anybody know what post #64 was about? Did I miss something?"

It's a matter of time...when posters run out of intellectual arguments, they resort to either name calling or calling for help...watch, it'll happen (check out the other threads).

It is much easier for most (not pointing to you) to wish that those with dissenting opinions disappear or did not exist, rather than have to engage in an honest intellectual debate with an open-mind.

My two cents, FWIW.

And what's this "other country" stuff?

586 posted on 02/07/2004 11:57:18 PM PST by dmzTahoe (Go Zags!!!...#8 and still rising.)
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To: EternalVigilance; Jorge
Then your old comprehension problem is kicking up again, or never left -- I have posted a graphs, which factually proved Jorge right, in his statement about the deficit, as well as a few posts supporting him and warning him, that any discussion with you is a waste of time. Apparently you missed all that.

587 posted on 02/08/2004 12:00:24 AM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: Nix 2
Sorry Nix 2, my itallics should have read : "Who threatened to call JimRob? Or the mods?"

It's late.

588 posted on 02/08/2004 12:00:54 AM PST by dmzTahoe (Go Zags!!!...#8 and still rising.)
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To: Nix 2
Well, what do you know? We agree on something!

But in fact, I agreed throughout the thread with some of the things you said. You didn't acknowledge that, or attempt to use it as bridge to a more adult exchange.

I said some nice things about you. You didn't acknowledge that.

That is the kind of incivility that we don't need...and why I think I hit the nail on the head by focusing on the tone and the target of what you wrote.

Aim your ire at Democrats. Go after liberals with all your might. Nobody in FReeperland is going to argue with you at all.

But when you focus your fire on conservatives who have legitimate beefs with policy, don't be surprised when someone calls you on it.
589 posted on 02/08/2004 12:01:21 AM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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To: FairOpinion
You are a dishonest poster, and I have no respect for anything you say.
590 posted on 02/08/2004 12:02:09 AM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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To: EternalVigilance
"I have no respect for anything you say."

==

Coming from you, I take that as a compliment.

Good night!
591 posted on 02/08/2004 12:03:55 AM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: FairOpinion
Bye bye!
592 posted on 02/08/2004 12:04:37 AM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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To: Lazamataz; sauropod
A momentary change of subject...

With a cold today, I decided to rest and relax (read: stay offline). I watched a great (kids') movie, "Milo & Otis." Lots of puppies and kittens, Dudley Moore narrated it, all kinds of baby animals. It came out in '89 and my kids loved it when they were little; so much so that they wore out the videotape years ago. I found it on DVD at Best Buy today. Definitely of therapeutic value on days like today.

Now back to reading everybody's comments on this thread...

593 posted on 02/08/2004 12:08:01 AM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: FairOpinion
Then your old comprehension problem is kicking up again, or never left -- I have posted a graphs, which factually proved Jorge right, in his statement about the deficit, as well as a few posts supporting him and warning him, that any discussion with you is a waste of time. Apparently you missed all that.

Let's face it. EV is a liar. He/She/It has no regard for the truth.

But I find destroying EV's flimsy arguments a form of FR message board entertainment.

594 posted on 02/08/2004 12:14:44 AM PST by Jorge
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To: Jorge
Yeah right.

You're one of FR's resident liberals. Talk about entertainment value. That's the only reason you're kept around, you do know that, don't you?
595 posted on 02/08/2004 12:17:20 AM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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To: EternalVigilance
No need for further discussion, it's right out there in the open for everyone to see.

And everyone seems to disagree with you.

You're such a nag.

Maybe. But I'm YOUR nag. Admit it. You like me.

596 posted on 02/08/2004 12:18:35 AM PST by Jorge
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To: Jorge
You haven't 'destroyed' a single one of my arguments. You're delusional.
597 posted on 02/08/2004 12:18:42 AM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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To: nopardons
Actually, they have asked for my help. :-)

If that statement is true, then I am really worried about the state of things around here.

Praying that it's not true...

598 posted on 02/08/2004 12:19:04 AM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: EternalVigilance
You haven't 'destroyed' a single one of my arguments. You're delusional.

EV you got your head handed to you on this thread. Better luck next time.

599 posted on 02/08/2004 12:20:25 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: Jorge
No, I don't like you.

I haven't liked you since the first time I encountered you on FR...because you were advocating for the homosexual agenda.

Am I mistaken, or was that the first time we crossed paths?
600 posted on 02/08/2004 12:20:33 AM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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