FEC Eyes 'Shadow' Democratic Party

THE WASHINGTON POST ^ | February 1, 2004

[sopwith]

Major liberal donors are demonstrating their willingness to fund a new shadow Democratic Party, according to reports filed Friday by a network of nominally independent organizations committed to defeating President George W. Bush in November. Meanwhile, a drive to bar their activities has gained strength. On Thursday, the legal staff of the Federal Election Commission proposed regulations that could stifle the groups' plans, with backing from Republican Party leaders and campaign watchdog groups.

[G.Mason]

We are going to hear a lot more about "America Votes".

Click here to see the slime that supports this "Non-partisan", "not-for-profit", "bring Americans to third world status" organization.

In thirty years will all debates be decided by who is wearing the biggest suicide bomb vest, or shall we kill them off now?

[sgtbono2002]

The campaign finance reform was and is a joke, There isnt enough putty in the world to close off every loophole. Money will find a way to buy into politics and the Dems claim to be for the poor man are crap, they are into it for the money like everyone else.

[MEG33]

Soros,etc,in trouble with the FEC?

[trek]

This article explains why Bush signed McCain-Feingold. He traded the heart of the First Amendment for short-term political advantage. Bush is doing a good job on the war. But the rest of his agenda sucks. We probably ought to see that he gets re-elected. But as citizens of the Republic we should take this as a lesson. No politician deserves our trust. Few are even worthy of respect. It was said long ago and it is still true today.

"Eternal vigilance is the watchdog of democracy"

[ovrtaxt]

No politician deserves our trust. Few are even worthy of respect.

That bears repeating.

They are worthy of suspicion and scrutiny. Power does weird things to people, I don't care what party they represent.

[trek]

This is the great paradox of politics. Those who are drawn to power are precisely those who cannot be trusted to wield it.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Bush is doing a good job on the war. But the rest of his agenda sucks.

That's a pretty broad statement. I would guess, if you thought about it, you could come up with one or two things he has done that didn't "suck". Tax cuts. PBA ban. Kyoto. Basically telling the U.N. to kiss off. I mean...there must be something.

[mewzilla]

Follow the money....

[Dutch Boy]

If the goal was truely to regulate campaign money the CFR was not even close. What should have been done was make it so you can only contribute to campaign in which you can vote. All other donations should be considered bribes. In other words, you must collect all campaign money from the area you are running. That bars businesses and unions since they can't vote. You'll end campaigns like Hillary where she collected about 80% of her money out of state. After all, this is a representitive republic. If you can't get funding from the area you are running in are you actually representing them?

[taildragger]

McCain Fiegold was a Cluster Fornication of Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, and the Supeme's made it the (final) law of the land.

Get Congress in there infinite wisdom creates the "527's" to skirt the issue.

McCain go got all wrong, we didn't need campaign finance reform. What we needed either a Flat Tax or National Sales tax because all the special interest on "K" Street go after what they want via legislation and that usually means getting Congress to write into law some benefit to them and that means in the Tax Code.

Take away these millions of lines of Code and retrain these Lobbyist and Attorneys to do something productive, like garbage collection....

And while I am are at it, Give Congress the same 5 year vesting period under ERISA and the same Defined Benefit Plans as those in the private sector (if you are lucky enough to have one at your workplace), also make them pay Social Security taxes, Talk about instant term-limits, he he.....

[taildragger]

Also were is the "Beck" decision in all this?

Damn it, cut the dollars off they can play with politically!

It is the law of the land and GWB and Company are not enforcing it!

[em2vn]

Immigration policy, coddling communist China, non-support for judicial nonimees, flight of American's jobs off shore, prescription drug program.
I'll once again vote for him but he is a great disappointment. He is completely detached from daily American society and its people.
The president is the epitomy of a country club Republican.He has stumbled his way into a close election that he should have won hands down.

[FreeAtlanta]

It is sort of like international treaties where the U.S. is the only nation ethical enough to actually stick to their agreements. In campaign finance, the Republicans will try to follow the letter of the law, and the DemonRats will have a field day.

[trek]

Ok. I will give you the tax cuts and PBA. But in giving you PBA you will have to concede Bush's total capitulation on improving the Federal Judiciary. He has almost completely rolled over for the Senate Democrats (The Pickering recess appointment being the rare exception).

Kyoto was already dead (not even the dems in the Senate would vote for it) and telling the UN to kiss off was part of the war effort.

And must I remind you of his proposal to open the borders? I live in Texas. The INS is reporting illegal immigration up 18% since Bush's speech. When caught, illegals are saying "But Bush said it is alright to come here!"

There can be no denial. Bush is screwing us royally. The only concilation is that he is screwing Al Qaeda worse. I am keeping score. After the war we are going to have a big score to settle with the Republicans.

[jimkress]

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut, occasionally.

Bush is a Republican Liberal. His only difference with Liberals in the Democrat wing of the Liberal establishment is that his priorities for Big Government are slightly different from theirs - but with the same goal, complete subservience of Americans to, and dependence on, their government and its associated political class.

[libstripper]

The vital thing about this article is that it shows what's probably the only way to defeat CFR--make it really hurt the DemonRats and RINOs who supported it. If the FEC prohibits the DemonRats' 527 organizations from doing what they're trying to do, the DemonRats will really howl. When the Special Counsel was inteptly attacking the Sink Emperor the DemonRats suddenly discovered the extreme disadvantages of the Special Counsel Law. Poof, no more Special Counsel Law. The same thing will happen to CFR if we really push envorcement against the DemonRats.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

No, he is not a "liberal". He is pro-life, strong on national defense, pro business and anti-tax. Does that sound like a liberal to you?

The hyperbole around here is so thick lately, you could choke on it.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

I was simply demonstrating to you that he does hold conservative positions and has accomplished some good things aside from the war - that his agenda beyond that doesn't "suck", as you declared.

I don't feel the need to qualify his accomplishments. Maybe I'm just an unusually positive person or something. He has done a few things that have disappointed me, but I don't feel like I'm getting "screwed royally".

John Kerry might make me feel that way though.

[jmstein7]

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