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1 posted on 01/30/2004 4:27:54 PM PST by Momaw Nadon
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To: Momaw Nadon
Yawn..
2 posted on 01/30/2004 4:28:32 PM PST by cardinal4 (Hillary and Clark rhymes with Ft Marcy park...)
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To: Momaw Nadon

No problem folks. This is a poll taken before the Kerry dirt is released.

(Oh! There's a lot the general public does not know YET.)


3 posted on 01/30/2004 4:30:47 PM PST by TaxRelief (P-A-N-T-H-E-R-S, Go panthers!)
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To: Momaw Nadon
I'm all polled out.

But I've already heard that Gillespie will use the label "liberal" quite...uh...liberally during the campaign against Kerry (assuming it's Kerry).
4 posted on 01/30/2004 4:31:55 PM PST by Akira (The people have spoken.....the bastards.)
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To: Momaw Nadon
Thirty-nine percent (39%) of Americans view him as a moderate while 11% say he is a political conservative.

Half the country thinks Ketchup boy is a moderate or a conservative. Heaven help us all!

5 posted on 01/30/2004 4:32:07 PM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: Momaw Nadon
In Theresa's dreams.

Just the mere thought of her as first lady is embarrassing.

7 posted on 01/30/2004 4:34:53 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Momaw Nadon
No offense, but, who cares (polite version). Dean was up by 20+ percent in Iowa. Did he win?
8 posted on 01/30/2004 4:35:30 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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To: Momaw Nadon
Fine. Let Kerry peak early.
11 posted on 01/30/2004 4:38:24 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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14 posted on 01/30/2004 4:38:46 PM PST by Momaw Nadon (Goals for 2004: Re-elect President Bush, over 60 Republicans in the Senate, and a Republican House.)
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To: Momaw Nadon
Have those people who voted for him actually seen him? Or listened to him? What are they thinking?
16 posted on 01/30/2004 4:41:46 PM PST by The Raven
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To: Momaw Nadon; Mo1; ohioWfan; windchime; PhiKapMom
Well, let's hold the election now. Why wait until November when Lurch and his botox treatments are the laugh of the country.

These stupid polls are just that, stupid.
17 posted on 01/30/2004 4:43:04 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: Momaw Nadon; Map Kernow; cardinal4; TaxRelief; Akira; lsmith1990; All
[I posted the following analysis on another thread -- it's thesis is relevant to this thread as well!]


REALITY CHECK -- several points about this poll/polls at this point in a presidential election cycle:

1.) ARG polls ALWAYS trend lower than the major polls, e.g., in Sept and Oct ARG also put the President's job approval rating at 47% when the majors put his rating in the mid-50s.

2.) This particular ARG poll merely confirms that the President's approval ratings have returned to normative ARG levels (Sept-Nov 2003) after receiving a temporary bump in December from two intersecting phenomena: a.) the capture of Saddam Hussein, and b.) improved public perception of the economy.

3.) ALL pollsters know that a President's job approval rating closing tracks the public's perception of the economy. According to various tracking polls, the public's perception of the economy spiked in December and has declined precipitously since the January 9 jobs report. [NOTE: This decline is primarily reflected in polling data from Independents -- Republicans have consistently rated the economy positively; Democrats have consistently rated the economy negatively; Independents are the only cohort group that demonstrably alters its view from polling period to polling period.]

4.) When analyzing any pollster's data, one should always consider polling data from other Pollsters gleaned during a comparable polling period:

QUINNIPIAC UNIVERSITY (registered voters):
53% approve 40% disapprove
[This approval rating is HIGHER than their rating for the President in early December (51%) and consistent with the President's QU approval ratings for the LAST SEVEN MONTHS. This poll also has the President LEADING Kerry in a head-to-head match-up]

RASMUSSEN (likely voters):
54% approve 45% disapprove (Rasmussen uses a 4-pt schemata which drives the disapproval rating higher than a typical 2- pt schemata]

Rasmussen's approval rating is statistically unchanged from January 1, 2004 when it put the President's approval rating at 55%.

However, Rasmussen does put the President and Kerry in a statistical tie relative to a head-to-head match-up [The increase in Kerry's match-up ratings directly correlate with a corresponding DECREASE in economic confidence post the January 9 jobs report.]

5.) The next jobs report is February 6 (I think) -- if it's a good report, i.e., exceeds the economists' expectations, the President's approval ratings will improve. If the report misses estimates, the President's approval ratings will take another hit -- IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT!!!!!

6.) THIS ELECTION WILL BE CLOSE FOR ONE REASON -- THE LEFT CONTROLS THE MEDIA AND, IN TURN, CONTROLS THE PUBLIC'S PERCEPTION OF THE ECONOMY/JOB MARKET. In the final analysis, this election will turn on the public's perception of the economy/job market in Oct/Nov (any other issue is tangential at best)!

7.) REMEMBER THE OLD POLITICAL AXIOM: The winter and spring belongs to the challenger(s), the summer is moot, and the fall belongs to the incumbent. POLLS WILL MEAN NOTHING UNTIL THE FALL!!!!
[EVERY PRESIDENT HAS TRAILED THE CHALLENGER DURING THE WINTER/SPRING OF THE ELECTION YEAR! THE FALL IS WHAT MATTERS!]

FYI: The President has been travelling 3-4 days a week this month; his surrogates have been every where (including Iowa and New Hampshire) -- if you weren't aware of this, it's because the leftist media refuses to cover the President/surrogates. [Clinton got more coverage yesterday than the President's gotten in weeks!]

FYI2: NEWSWEEK will probably release it's leftist-leaning, 'Kerry-for-President' poll tonight or tomorrow (just in time for the Sunday talk shows)! Expect the worst!



18 posted on 01/30/2004 4:45:41 PM PST by DrDeb
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Nothing but dems, dems, dems in the media for months and now Kerry, Kerry, Kerry is all you hear. Despite it all, the best the dems can do with all this free publicity is run neck-and-neck with a candidate that hasn't even begun his campaign. Polls this early mean nothing--absolutely nothing.
20 posted on 01/30/2004 4:46:42 PM PST by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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I don't buy any of these polls which show Kerry ahead, simply because I doubt many of the voters even know who he is, let alone his record.
21 posted on 01/30/2004 4:50:59 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: Momaw Nadon
This is not surprising to me...

Bush seems to be doing everything possible to get democrat votes. Of course he will never get them. At the same time, he is loosing conservative votes by not supporting (or at least being soft on) conservative issues.
22 posted on 01/30/2004 4:52:32 PM PST by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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Kerry is dangerous this will be close and i give Bush a 50 50 chance
Kerry should not be underestimated
23 posted on 01/30/2004 4:52:34 PM PST by DM1
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To: Momaw Nadon
This is with Kerry getting maximum coverage, the other dems getting maximum coverage, and everyone (including the media) bashing President Bush.

He has not responded at all yet.

He is simply building his war chest for the right time.
25 posted on 01/30/2004 4:53:35 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
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To: Momaw Nadon
Squat.

Advantageous to Kerry. Probably that's Rasmussen's intent.
26 posted on 01/30/2004 4:58:42 PM PST by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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To: Momaw Nadon
skull & bones 100%
30 posted on 01/30/2004 5:06:32 PM PST by isom35
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1,500 Likely Voters

More like unlikely.

33 posted on 01/30/2004 5:11:40 PM PST by b4its2late (If you ain't makin' waves, you ain't kickin' hard enough!)
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Damn. Bush ought to just resign and turn the keys of the White House over to Kerry. <\sarcasm>
35 posted on 01/30/2004 5:14:36 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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