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Groklaw ^ | 01/30/04 | Pamela Jones, et al

[ShadowAce]

OK. GE made a statement he refuses (or is unable) to back up. The burden of proof is on him. If you wish to agree with him, please provide the proof.

I merely said that because IBM provided funding to iBiblio, and iBiblio provides free hosting to Groklaw, does not mean the IBM has editorial input into Groklaw's website.

What I posited was not an accusation, as opposed to GE's assertion. As he made the accusation, it's up to him to prove it.

Do you disagree?

[js1138]

I don't know if IBM donated servers, but if they did it's because they approve of the editorial slant of the site.

If I buy commercial time on Rush Limbaugh's program it doesn't mean I endorce his politics. But if I donate money to NPR without compensation, it is because I approve of their programming.

[ShadowAce]

I don't know if IBM donated servers, but if they did it's because they approve of the editorial slant of the site.

But that's the point--they donated nothing to Groklaw. The servers were donated to iBiblio, affiliated with the university of NC. iBiblio is donating free host space to Groklaw. iBiblio is a software/education/linux site.

So--until you can prove the editorial link across three parties, you have no case, nor anything resembling one. What you DO have is a mob screaming "Burn the witch!"

Which is all GE and the MS crowd ever do

[ShadowAce]

I don't know if IBM donated servers, but if they did it's because they approve of the editorial slant of the site.

But that's the point--they donated nothing to Groklaw. The servers were donated to iBiblio, affiliated with the university of NC. iBiblio is donating free host space to Groklaw. iBiblio is a software/education/linux site.

So--until you can prove the editorial link across three parties, you have no case, nor anything resembling one. What you DO have is a mob screaming "Burn the witch!"

Which is all GE and the MS crowd ever do

[Golden Eagle]

LOL at you spinning on your head like a top. Disprove either of these statements:

Groklaw runs on servers donated by IBM

IBM donated the hardware that is used to run Groklaw


I submit the article in Forbes magazine as evidence. Now what do you have other than more foaming at the mouth?

[ShadowAce]

mmm--my first double post. I don't think I hit submit more than once.

[ShadowAce]

The article is not evidence that IBM directs editorial content at Groklaw, and I defy you to prove it.

[js1138]

Your reasoning makes no sense at all. If FR runs on Linux does that mean FR's editorial policy is controlled by Open Source?

You implied that IBM donated servers directly to Groklaw, implying that IBM made its donation in order to make Groklaw possible. You haven't connected these dots.

[bobwoodard]

The thing that has me amazed is the total lack of evidence that the SCO Group has been able to put forth. You'd think that in order to scare some small businesses into the license deal, they'd release some good examples of the code they're referring to.

[Golden Eagle]

IBM donated the hardware that powers Groklaw, and the content of Groklaw appears to be 100% in support of IBM's interests.

If you can't put the two together, I really can't help you. And if you can disprove either, you're more than welcome to try. But I can tell you this either way: when you login to Groklaw, you are logging into a server that was donated by IBM.

[Golden Eagle]

Groklaw didn't move to ibiblio until fairly recently - 22 Nov 2003 - see http://radio.weblogs.com/0120124

Not surprising that Groklaw link didn't mention their "IBM servers" at all, although it does seem to mention the word "IBM" what looks like about 1,000 times or more. Guess they want you to believe a lot of what they're saying about IBM, but still not giving you the full or true story.

[kevkrom]

Not surprising that Groklaw link didn't mention their "IBM servers" at all, although it does seem to mention the word "IBM" what looks like about 1,000 times or more. Guess they want you to believe a lot of what they're saying about IBM, but still not giving you the full or true story.

I'm posting this from a PC running Windows 98SE. Does that mean Microsoft is contolling my editorial content?

[Golden Eagle]

I'm posting this from a PC running Windows 98SE. Does that mean Microsoft is contolling my editorial content?

I highly doubt it. Did they donate the computer or software to you? Is every peice of content you manage and post to others 100% pro-Microsoft?

[kevkrom]

I highly doubt it. Did they donate the computer or software to you?

Nope. And IBM didn't donate anything to GrokLaw. They donated it to a site that GrokLaw has moved to well after the IBM donation.

[Golden Eagle]

They donated it to a site that GrokLaw has moved to well after the IBM donation.

Really, where is this documented? It's a donation that directly assists Groklaw, and completely destroys any pretense of objectiveness. If Groklaw wants to maintain any level of credibility, they need to find another donor for their hardware. And the services that run the site, apparently Red Hat pays for that.

[DFW_Repub]

Actually I did a little quick research, Linux is derived from Minux not Posix. There seems to be some really good Intellectual Property Law Attorneys who believe that SCO has a case and there a some who believe they do not.

As for the lack of evidence presented by SCO, I don't think we have seen all of it. There will be more to come. The courts will decide sometime next year.

[stainlessbanner]

>Linus Torvalds: SCO Is "Just Too Wrong"

Good read.

[steve-b]

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