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To: Djarum
With the clear understanding that the supremacy clause & the 14th both say the States are bound to honor the US Constitution & BOR's. It is ludicrous to see a major political figure like Keyes claim that states are free violate our individual rights. -- I'd like to see him defend the CA assault weapon prohibition on this basis, for instance..

You, of all people, would promote the expansive Fed power that led to gun control and the WOD? I can't believe it.

Calling for Keyes to support the constitution is not promoting 'fed power'..
Both states & feds are violating our BOR's, and getting away with it, -- because of politically misguided folks who believe figureheads like Keyes, who claims in his article above that states are free violate our individual rights.

I argued against his postition in detail at #52, which you chose to misunderstand. -- What more can be said..

333 posted on 01/31/2004 6:51:21 AM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but the U.S. Constitution defines a conservative. (writer 33 )
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To: tpaine
With the clear understanding that the supremacy clause & the 14th both say the States are bound to honor the US Constitution & BOR's. It is ludicrous to see a major political figure like Keyes claim that states are free violate our individual rights.

What's ludicrous is your interpretation of the amendment.

"It was under a solemn consciousness of the dangers from ecclesiastical ambition, the bigotry of spiritual pride, and the intolerance of sects, thus exemplified in our domestic, as well as in foreign 'annals, that it was deemed advisable to exclude from the national government all power to act upon the subject. The situation, too, of the different states equally proclaimed the policy, as Well as the necessity of such an exclusion. . . . It was impossible, that there should not arise perpetual strife, and perpetual jealousy on the subject of ecclesiastical ascendancy, if the national government were left free to create a religious establishment. The only security was in extirpating the power. But this alone would have been an imperfect security, if it had not been followed up by a declaration of the right of the free exercise of religion, and a prohibition (as we have seen) of all religious tests. Thus, the whole power over the subject of religion is left exclusively to the state governments, to be acted upon according to their own sense of justice, and the state constitutions; and the Catholic and the Protestant, the Calvinist and the Armenian, the Jew and the. Infidel, may sit down at the common table of the national councils, without any inquisition into their faith, or mode of worship."
-Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution

Calling for Keyes to support the constitution is not promoting 'fed power'..

States are "bound to honor" your beliefs because of "the supremacy clause & the 14th". To me, it looks very much like the promotion of expansive Fed power.

365 posted on 01/31/2004 3:48:28 PM PST by Djarum
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