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To: Cindy
Throwing this out here for debate.
What do you guys think???

When will the Hammer Fall...
I am not sure whether or not to out much merit into the various countdown clocks that are around, but there has been a strange matter of events lately:
#1 Earlier it was said that Bin Laden was caught. Now whether or not he was caught can still be debated, but someone big sure was as the spree of high target arrests has shown.
#2 All of a sudden after these rumors of Bin Ladens capture the US Military states that they are postive that they will catch Bin Laden this year.
#3 The SuperBowl is this weekend. The President will be there as well as approx. 100,000 people or the same amount that was said to be killed in the next attack.
#4 Sometime this week a new Clouds enterprise video is to come out giving marching orders to militants all over the Middle East and Afghanistan. This could be the video that is to come after the Great Hit and could then be the signal for everything else to kick off.
#5 The US military is on the verge of launching a massive offensive in the Afghan-Pakstani tribal areas. They say they are confident that they will catch Mullah Omar and - or Bin Laden.
#6 There has been a flurry of intelligence regarding the next attack and also the capitulation of the Saudi Gov. Many people are saying that the internet postings and the clocks are meaningless. The Jihadis have been very, very positive that the attack will come when we least expect it.
#7 Time countinuosly runs down as 1424 winds down.
#8 They must attack by 1424 if the prophecy of the Imam Mahdi is to come true. The next time that the lunar and solar eclipses align during the prophecy such as the Qurran states is 1000 years from now.
#9 Bin Laden publicly stated an attack will come this year and also that he will figuratively be Martyred in the Belly of the Eagle.
#10 An Audio tape came out in early January. Every time one has been broadcasted there has been an attack within 3 to 45 days afterwards.
#11 We are coming upon the pinnacle of the Hajj Jan. 30. If I were to take down the corrupt apostate kingdom of the Al-Saud family... What better time then when you have hundreds of thousands of sympathizers and foreign allies running rampant through the Kingdom. One could easily meld into the crowds.
#12 It is positively known that militants left their remote Saudi and Yemeni holdouts almost a month ago loaded with weapons and supplies heading towards the Kingdom.
So in conclusion, maybe the Gov. knows the shit is about to hit the fan, Bin Laden let himself get captured/Martyred in the Belly of the Eagle or i.e. in our custody. The US Gov. keeps the Bin Laden capture quiet trying to get as much intel as possible i.e. the recent captures and are probably trying to stop the next attack. Bin Laden allowed himself to be captured to be presented to the American public after the next attack so that we will not respond with nuclear weapons in the Middle East. Bin Laden will then die in our custody as he already is seriously ill, this will then appear, like a true Mujahiden, to be his Martyr at the hands of the enemy. The Middle East will have avoided a nuclear strike by us, be enraged at the "murder" by the US of the apparent Imam Mahdi, IT Will be the Western world versus Islam. The US will be at war virtually all over the Middle East and parts of Asia. We will be leaderless and in complete anger and disarray. All of this fits perfectly with the Jihadis plans. Sharia law will flourish as will Militant Islam.
These are just thoughts, but as I read them over they are damn convincing. We shall see if 1424 ends peacefully, my bets are on a definite no. Just because these countdowns run down and say nothing happens, that does not mean we should let our guard down at all.
They Will Strike... This I Promise


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01-30-2004 01:35 AM

2,126 posted on 01/29/2004 6:05:08 PM PST by Mossad1967
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To: Mossad1967
Wow, that's a pretty heavy theory. I think that there is a lot of plausibility in his ideas. Can anyone elaborate about the prophecy that must be fulfilled in 1424?
2,140 posted on 01/29/2004 6:24:34 PM PST by thecabal
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To: Mossad1967
#8 They must attack by 1424 if the prophecy of the Imam Mahdi is to come true. The next time that the lunar and solar eclipses align during the prophecy such as the Qurran states is 1000 years from now.

It's not even clear that the eclipses from last year fulfill the prophecy this time. The solar eclipse was not visible from the Middle East; the totality was only visible in the far South Pacific and Antarctica (!). Since a double Ramadan eclipse is not unprecedented, and previous candidates for the Mahdi have been rejected because the totality of one or both eclipses was not visible from Mecca (though some were visible in other areas of the Far East eg India), it seems a bit odd to put so much emphasis on this one. Except that, as he says, this is the last chance for quite some time for that to be fulfilled.

2,143 posted on 01/29/2004 6:28:17 PM PST by brucecw
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To: Mossad1967
Sir Ryan sees it exactly as I do. Thanks for that.
2,152 posted on 01/29/2004 6:35:16 PM PST by txhurl
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To: Mossad1967
Can't disagree with Ryan's take.

We've stopped attacks. It's obvious they havent' stopped trying. Too many anomalies in the news.

Will they be able to slip through in the CONUS?

I think the Hajj is the place to watch.

2,155 posted on 01/29/2004 6:37:49 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Mossad1967
#2 "All of a sudden after these rumors of Bin Ladens capture the US Military states that they are postive that they will catch Bin Laden this year.",

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ #2 is the one that made me stop and wonder when they reported it. Seems to make one think we just may already have him. I hope we get/got Zawahiri as well.

2,156 posted on 01/29/2004 6:38:12 PM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: Mossad1967
Pretty intense. I hope it does not come to be.
2,162 posted on 01/29/2004 6:48:01 PM PST by Revel
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To: Mossad1967
sure, its a working theory. But of course the part of it about us being nuked and then releasing a video of a captured Osama as the "we hit them back", and that being our only response, is preposterous. Does anyone really think the administration is that stupid? who would buy that?
2,165 posted on 01/29/2004 6:48:54 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Mossad1967
Who is Sir Jack Ryan?
2,234 posted on 01/29/2004 8:27:13 PM PST by Oorang ( "If you see a bomb technician running, try to keep up with him." U.S.A.F. Ammo Troop)
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To: Mossad1967
Sir Jack is on the yahoo group yes?
2,361 posted on 01/30/2004 6:11:34 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican and Write-In Tom Tancredo in March)
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