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Mexican Army Incursions Into The United States
The Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus ^

Posted on 01/24/2004 9:54:01 AM PST by Happy2BMe

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To: Quix
Wellllllllll, there WERE Germans in Mexico at the time!

Yeah, but not 100,000+ soldiers ready to storm across the friggin' Rio Grande. THAT is what the story was.

61 posted on 01/24/2004 3:38:30 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: eskimo
No it is not. Even some of the most poorly equipped military units on the planet have GPS gear.

It may be in the TO&E at the regiment or battalion level, but that doesn't mean (a) that platoon leaders actually get it issued to them, or (b) that the colonel didn't sell it.

Hell, there was a story that a general in the Mexican Air Force black-marketed a couple of F-5s to the Iranians a while back (early 1990s).

And, yes, the border is exceptionally poorly marked. I had a buddy get thoroughly lost a while back after his GPS died--he wound up about three miles into Mexico.

62 posted on 01/24/2004 3:44:30 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Happy2BMe
bttt
63 posted on 01/24/2004 4:14:56 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Happy2BMe
Rep. Tancredo’s office has begun documenting new incursions as they take place. Most recently, two disturbing incursions have taken place. On May 17th, a Mexican Army unit led an incursion near Ajo, Arizona that ended with a shot being fired at a Border Patrol Agent. The agent was not hurt, but had two of his vehicle’s windows shot out. On June 14th, the Mexican Army opened fire (with high-powered .308 rifles) on a vehicle with 20 people packed into it. Six of the passengers were injured, two critically.

This is an act of war.

64 posted on 01/24/2004 4:52:38 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Happy Iraqi Independence Day!!!!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
"This is an act of war."

And it's been going on for decades.

65 posted on 01/24/2004 4:59:06 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
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To: FITZ
Correct me if I am offbase here, but wasn't there a case where the Mexican military (not the Federales) killed a U.S. F.B.I. agent on the border in a fire fight?
66 posted on 01/24/2004 5:02:22 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
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To: Happy2BMe
The issue of incursions needs to be confronted by the U.S. government ... with military force, and charge em for the body bags!
I for one am getting REAL TIRED of being pushed around by the Mexican Government.
Jack
67 posted on 01/24/2004 5:37:48 PM PST by btcusn
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To: Happy2BMe
My guess is that, eventually, a firefight will break out with them: Either with some law enforcement personell or with American civilians. There will likely be casualties. Anyone know what the probable or possible legal outcome would be? Considering treaties, American law, Mexican law, International law and such?
68 posted on 01/24/2004 5:46:25 PM PST by templar
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To: templar; Sabertooth; JackelopeBreeder; B4Ranch; Spiff; Missouri; Ajnin
"My guess is that, eventually, a firefight will break out with them: Either with some law enforcement personell or with American civilians."

In light of the current directives outright muzzling and impeding our Border Patrol from effectively sealing our borders due to the political incorrecntess of such actions, it would not be unreasonable for such an incident never to reach the light of day.

Border Patrol orders agents to restrict forays into cities.

The Plight of the U.S. Border Patrol - INS Being Strapped From Fullfilling It's Job

69 posted on 01/24/2004 5:58:04 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
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To: All
Border Patrol orders agents to limit patrol areas

70 posted on 01/24/2004 5:59:20 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
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To: Poohbah
It may be in the TO&E at the regiment or battalion level, but that doesn't mean (a) that platoon leaders actually get it issued to them, or (b) that the colonel didn't sell it.

Yeah, that could be too, but surely not the only reason for 115 incidents in the last 8 years. Some of these have to be planned actions.

71 posted on 01/24/2004 6:09:36 PM PST by eskimo
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To: Happy2BMe
"This is an act of war."

And it's been going on for decades.

What can we do about it? This has to stop.

72 posted on 01/24/2004 6:26:24 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Happy Iraqi Independence Day!!!!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl; Spiff; B4Ranch; JackelopeBreeder
"What can we do about it? This has to stop."

For that question, the answer must come from our president. A good place to begin answering some of these questions would be Cochise County, Arizona . .

President Bush - stand up and tell us the truth

73 posted on 01/24/2004 6:31:08 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
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To: Happy2BMe
Oh my God, where are the tree hugging jackasses? This is disgusting!

Paging President Bush...clean up on aisle 3!
74 posted on 01/24/2004 6:38:11 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Happy Iraqi Independence Day!!!!)
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To: Darksheare
MAJOR BUMP SIR!

Shoot first,srtight,often
75 posted on 01/24/2004 6:38:19 PM PST by TMSuchman (sic semper tranis,semper fi! & you can't fix stupid either!)
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To: Happy2BMe
There's nothing wrong with our border problem that can't be fixed by some concertina barbed wire, German shepards, and bounties.
76 posted on 01/24/2004 6:43:08 PM PST by Mulder (Fight the future)
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To: Mulder
"There's nothing wrong with our border problem that can't be fixed by some concertina barbed wire, German shepards, and bounties."

Obviously you are not running for president.

77 posted on 01/24/2004 6:53:55 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
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To: Happy2BMe
Obviously you are not running for president.

And your point is.... ?

78 posted on 01/24/2004 7:01:11 PM PST by Mulder (Fight the future)
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To: Mulder
Such practical solutions as physically sealing the border with Mexico are not conducive to winning the presidency.
79 posted on 01/24/2004 7:03:01 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
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To: Happy2BMe
Shoot first, ask questions later.

Trajan88

80 posted on 01/24/2004 7:16:20 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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