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To: George Frm Br00klyn Park
GFBP:

Your posts confuse me. From reading some of your posts I tend to think that you support this IB crapola, then you turn around and say that you oppose it. I will take you at your word that you oppose it.

I also take exception to your contention that the curriculum is being taught nationally. While that may be true as a generality, I work as a substitute teacher in Orange County, FL and can tell you unequivocally that I don't see it in the Orange County School District. What I encounter is a district that is dedicated to teaching children the skills to succeed and to take personal responsibility. The challenges that the teachers are up against are lack of parental involvement (which they are trying to work around) and the influence of pop culture. I can't tell you how many kids I have encountered in the schools (middle and high) who plan to be rap singers or pro athletes. I try to counsel them to have a backup plan because there aren't that many places for rap singers and pro athletes, but its a lot like spitting in the wind.

Still, in my district, at least, the emphasis is on learning, American values and traditions, and personal responsibility.
14 posted on 01/24/2004 7:48:30 AM PST by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: DustyMoment
It's in Pinellas County:

http://ibman2001.tripod.com/phuhsIBP/
15 posted on 01/24/2004 8:28:17 AM PST by ladylib
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To: DustyMoment
Still, in my district, at least, the emphasis is on learning, American values and traditions, and personal responsibility.

DM, Glad to hear it. You must be one of the exceptions. But, the idea that "parents are responsible' is pure hogwash. Parents have NOTHING to do with policies set that have facillitated this evil. In fact, whenever most parents really become involved, they find that they are needed as helpers. And any common sense suggestions to remedy problems are met with derision and "We know better". Parents are NOT in the schools where chaos prevails. Teachers and their administrators are. And, either they are failing miserably, or succeeding. Take your pick. Folks in Florida can't EVEN punch ballots correctly. LOL. Peace and love, George.

19 posted on 01/24/2004 11:37:40 AM PST by George Frm Br00klyn Park (FREEDOM!!!!!!!!! GO PAT GO!!!!)
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To: DustyMoment
I also take exception to your contention that the curriculum is being taught nationally. While that may be true as a generality, I work as a substitute teacher in Orange County, FL and can tell you unequivocally that I don't see it in the Orange County School District.

I'm pretty sure it's being taught here in Central Pennsylvania. In fact, I'm pretty sure that the information was what we we being taught back when I was in Jr High (before we reverted back to the Middle School concept).

You can't succeed on your own, the only success comes from being part of the group. My children wrote English papers in groups - that's how deeply embedded these concepts are here. How can someone learn to write an English paper if they write it as a group and their peer groups review and grade it??? Everything's relative, none of us should rely just on ourselves, yada, yada, yada.

22 posted on 01/24/2004 6:50:45 PM PST by Kay Ludlow
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