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1 posted on 01/22/2004 2:37:27 PM PST by gubamyster
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2 posted on 01/22/2004 2:38:26 PM PST by gubamyster
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It is a real shame that the situation is such that the officer cannot even use his own name for fear that he will be punished somehow for speaking out against a criminal class.

It is an even bigger shame that some "conservatives" seem to have no problem with this, and wish to reward these criminals - along with their enablers and co-conspirators - with an amnesty program.
4 posted on 01/22/2004 2:44:26 PM PST by WayneM (Cut the KRAP (Karl Rove Amnesty Plan). Call your elected officials and say "NO!!")
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Well, here's the thing, being able to identify who is coming in, implies an ability to keep them out. How is a government, whose agenda is to over run the native population with an illegal invasion, suppose to look innocent if at the same time if they have the ability to know who is entering the country?
5 posted on 01/22/2004 2:44:58 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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And a view from the South. Here in Mexico, we suffer because we have single moms trying to raise teen age boys who need their dad! Of those I personally know who went to the USA through the back door and NOT the welcome mat, 80% of them had criminal records. Paying $5.00 to get an appointment at the Embassy and $100 for an interview to get a visa.....passports cost $80 US dollars. It is just much more simple to sneak in. (Even the US President wants to give them legal status!)VISAS need to be easily acquired, and let the good guys in, and nail those who come in with false IDs. Send them back home to be fathers to their kids.
6 posted on 01/22/2004 2:46:52 PM PST by rovenstinez
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BTTT
7 posted on 01/22/2004 2:51:00 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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On a related note, I keep hearing that these illegals are filling jobs that Americans "don't want" or "won't do." I hear it from liberals and conservatives alike.

Well, that's just a lot of cr*p. It's not that we don't want or won't do the job; it's just that the employer isn't willing to pay whatever it will take to get someone to accept the job.

Close the borders. Now, you can't get someone to clean your toilets, slaughter your pigs, or dress your chickens for $5.50/hour? Double the wage offer, and don't stand in front of the door, lest you get run over by the stampede of people who allegedly "don't want" or "won't do" those jobs.

Nah, the real problem isn't the jobs. It's the standard of living we've come to expect and demand, thanks to cheap labor the world over.

8 posted on 01/22/2004 3:06:48 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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In its editorial, the Wall Street Journal says smugly, "We could always next build a Berlin Wall along the 2,000 miles of U.S.-Mexican border, or deploy the 101st Airborne, but we doubt Americans would be morally comfortable with either."

Yeah? Try me!

That said, we don't need a low-tech cement block wall with guard towers and machine guns. We can do a 95% job with hi-tech, the military and choking off the demand for illegal labor.

But we can never do it while sitting around wringing our hands in anguish we might offend somebody who shouldn't be here and doesn't deserve to be here in the first place - nor their smug enablers!

10 posted on 01/22/2004 3:38:19 PM PST by Gritty ("GOP gurus want to empty the Big Tent for those who don't yet want a place in it-Wesley Pruden)
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Illegal immigration depresses wages. In 1982 my father was a journeyman carpenter in the Houston area. He had his own tools and a cabinet shop. He was the company. He paid himself a fair wage for a top hand carpenter, $15 an hour. Today with most of the residential and commercial construction done by immigrants the wage for a top hand is still $15 an hour. It is simple supply and demand. More people chasing the jobs the lower the wages. A carpenter was once a good middle class job, but not any more.
25 posted on 01/23/2004 5:50:51 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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