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Can't visit secure sites - I suspect Windows Update (Vanity)
my fertile brain ^ | 1/14/03 | the non-secure Warrior Princess

Posted on 01/14/2004 6:50:53 AM PST by Xenalyte

You know all those sites that start with "https"? I can't visit a single one. I get the "This page cannot be found" boilerplate message.

I suspect Windows Update is the culprit . . . back in August or September, I downloaded a recommended update, after which I couldn't get to Paypal or any other secure site.

I've uninstalled all the updates from the last six months, reinstalled Windows XP, the whole nine yards.


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Any ideas, suggestions, comments would be GREATLY appreciated. (I shall ignore all the "Get a Mac" and "Learn Linux" comments, since the discussions for them are that way and over there.)
1 posted on 01/14/2004 6:50:59 AM PST by Xenalyte
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To: Xenalyte
Try another browser.

If you don't have one download Firebird

If you still can't visit secure sites it is definitely deeper than IE.

2 posted on 01/14/2004 6:56:04 AM PST by American_Centurion
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To: Xenalyte
I'll assume you're using Internet Explorer as a browser?

I strongly suspect the fix is simply changing a setting in IE "Tools" (at the top)...either Security or Privacy.

I think I had this happen to me for no apparent reason and I simply changed the slider bar for either Security or Privacy, but it was so long ago I'm not sure.

I'd try the Microsoft website and search for https and see what comes up.
3 posted on 01/14/2004 6:57:38 AM PST by John H K
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To: Xenalyte
I really have no advice for you, but an observation; THIS page starts with http and you're here. Is that your home page?

Also, FR STILL seems a little glitchy this morning. Very slow here.
4 posted on 01/14/2004 6:58:53 AM PST by EggsAckley (...................Repeal the Fourteenth Amendment.......................)
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To: Xenalyte
Have you tried to make all your security settings default in IE? Tools menu --> Internet Options menu --> Security tab --> Default Level button.

A quick look in google for "can't access https pages" reveals a lot of hits. The top-most hit refers to a firewall/proxy setting problem/fix on the local PC.

5 posted on 01/14/2004 6:59:19 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: American_Centurion; John H K
I should add that with Mozilla, Opera and Netscape, I cannot visit ANYTHING. They can't seem to find the Internet. (Of course, this was last week on dial-up; we got cable over the weekend, which may or may not change anything.)
6 posted on 01/14/2004 7:00:02 AM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: EggsAckley
HTTPS, not plain HTTP. I can get to non-secure sites just fine.
7 posted on 01/14/2004 7:01:07 AM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Xenalyte
Are you at work and possibly behind a firewall?
8 posted on 01/14/2004 7:01:29 AM PST by Ingtar (Understanding is a three-edged sword : your side, my side, and the truth in between ." -- Kosh)
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To: Xenalyte
If you know what secure port you're supposed to enter, try appending that to your URL. eg.: https://www.ebay.com:8080 The common ones are :8080 and :443 but I'm sure there are others.

9 posted on 01/14/2004 7:03:27 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional.)
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Hey Xenalyte, I'd check your IE settings as other posters suggested, also check the version you're using under Help --> About Internet Explorer.

Failing all that try another browser, ie: Netscape or Mozilla.

NFP

10 posted on 01/14/2004 7:03:38 AM PST by Notforprophet ("You can have a nanny state if you prefer. But not for long." - Mark Steyn)
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To: Xenalyte
I have about 40 PC's here running Windows XP with various levels of patches installed (up to today's MDAC hotfix) and we test using SSL. None of these PC's has had a problem in the last 1 1/2 years accessing any secure sites. I think that maybe you have a third party software conflict, or you have inadvertantly changes some IE Settings. I suggest go to Tools -> Internet Options -> Advanced and select "restore defaults" unless you understand what all the settings do.
11 posted on 01/14/2004 7:04:10 AM PST by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives.")
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To: Xenalyte
Ah, I misread the "s" as a plural for http"s". Can't help ya.
But from my experience, every time I've downloaded any MS upgrades, I've regretted it. Brings in lots of strange "parasites."

Good luck.
12 posted on 01/14/2004 7:04:11 AM PST by EggsAckley (...................Repeal the Fourteenth Amendment.......................)
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To: Ingtar
Right now I am, but this problem happens at home.
13 posted on 01/14/2004 7:04:23 AM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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Another hit FWIW:

"Dont know about netscape but i faced the same problem in IE - solved it thus: tools>internet options>connections>lan settings>Use proxy server>advanced>Use same proxy server for all protocols that did it - the "https://" secure pages started sowing up. reÆó{s Vishwaneet"

14 posted on 01/14/2004 7:04:32 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Xenalyte
Another hit:

  I can't view secure Web pages


If you can see normal (http) Web pages but can't see secure (https) Web pages their may be several causes.


15 posted on 01/14/2004 7:06:56 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Xenalyte
I just wanted to state that I doubt that the problem is associated to security updates from microsoft.com. Try some of the good advice offered by others here.
Good luck.
16 posted on 01/14/2004 7:07:57 AM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: Xenalyte
Update to a current version of IE. Many secured sites will not allow access with outdated versions.
17 posted on 01/14/2004 7:08:54 AM PST by paul51
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To: Cultural Jihad
That could be it as well. We don't use a Proxy, but if she has a Cable connection she probably doesn't either. In fact the problem may be that it is looking for a proxy server where one isn't?
18 posted on 01/14/2004 7:09:02 AM PST by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives.")
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To: paul51
I'm using version 6-something . . . it's most recent, except for (maybe) a patch. I know I have the latest number.
19 posted on 01/14/2004 7:10:11 AM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: paul51
Windows XP ships with IE 6.0 and earlier versions of IE cannot be installed.
20 posted on 01/14/2004 7:10:31 AM PST by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives.")
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