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1 posted on 01/08/2004 3:57:15 AM PST by billorites
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To: billorites
I love Peggy Noonan but because I don't like Howard Dean, I don't want to like Howard Dean.

He is the "Damn Yankee" and my heroes have always been cowboys.

2 posted on 01/08/2004 4:04:17 AM PST by lonestar (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: billorites
the Republican Party is never at its best when faced with a lame challenger.
I beg to differ.

Reagan vs. Mondale

They didn't come much lamer than Mondale, and there hasn't been a more successful second term than Reagan's.

Sorry, Peggy. The only thing that's lame around here is this idea you have that the country "needs" a strong RAT nominee.

4 posted on 01/08/2004 4:07:56 AM PST by samtheman
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To: billorites
But Mr. Dean is not Mr. McGovern in a more important way.

....In more than one important way...

McGovern, a South Dakota preacher's son, was a 19-year-old college sophomore when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. He immediately volunteered for service and less than three years later was piloting one of the big, unwieldy B-24 Liberator bombers. Completing 35 missions over Europe, McGovern went on to earn a Distinguished Flying Cross for his service.

5 posted on 01/08/2004 4:30:52 AM PST by JimVT
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To: hobbes1; dubyaismypresident
He is not a happy warrior but an angry one. In the past I have thought of him as an angry little teapot, but that is perhaps too merry an image. His eyes are cold marbles, in repose his face falls into lines of mere calculation, and he holds himself with a kind of no-neck pugnacity that is fine in a wrestling coach or a tax lawyer but not in a president. We like our presidents sunny, easygoing and optimistic. They have access to the nuclear launch code, and we don't want them losing their tempers easily. Mr. Dean's supporters no doubt see him as optimistic, but optimists aren't angry

oh i love Peggy. an angry little teapot, indeed....

6 posted on 01/08/2004 4:33:30 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: billorites
I hope something surprising happens in Iowa, and New Hampshire, and in the South. I hope it becomes a real fight on the Democratic side, and I hope that fight yields up someone who is serious, substantive, and thoughtful. But that's not what I see coming. What I see coming is a Dean nomination followed by a rancorous campaign followed by a Dean defeat

hey, i can live with that!

7 posted on 01/08/2004 4:36:29 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: billorites
His was the shrewdest, quickest read of the Democratic voter of 2004.

This was an insight, something I'd not realized or seen in print: Dean appeals to the most emotional, least rational component of the DemocRat core. I thought that was "rev" Al Sharpton, but I stand corrected.

A very good Noonan article. Thanks for the post.

10 posted on 01/08/2004 4:44:44 AM PST by TheGeezer
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To: billorites
re: Mr. Dean's forces used the Internet with great and impressive creativity, and not only in fund-raising

I'll say. Given what's been said lately about moveon.org, who knows 'who all' has funnelled 'how much' through that organization (of course indirectly benefitting him and the other 8). Shoot, with dollars being sent over web to him, makes you wonder if foreign funds he could be directly benefitting him.

Either way, I'm sure he's the favorite candidate outside of our borders.. and Peggy forgot to mention that. In fact, he's probably the horse that they're betting on.

14 posted on 01/08/2004 5:14:57 AM PST by blue jeans
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To: billorites
billorites! My COMPLIMENTS to you! I was going to post this and you beat me to it. Good going! Great article, huh?
16 posted on 01/08/2004 5:25:43 AM PST by buffyt (You don't have a leg to stand on, Howard Dean, because you have both feet in your mouth!)
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To: billorites

"I have thought of him as an angry little teapot, but that is perhaps too merry an image. "


19 posted on 01/08/2004 6:03:58 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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"I come not to bury Ceasar, but to praise him!"
23 posted on 01/08/2004 6:32:20 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: billorites
Mr. Dean's people--and Mr. Dean--don't seem to have anything as coherent as an ideology. Instead they have attitude.

Perfectly put. As Peggy is prone to do...

25 posted on 01/08/2004 6:50:19 AM PST by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: billorites
His background is eastern WASP--Park Avenue, the Hamptons, boarding school, Yale. But he doesn't seem like a WASP.

Peggy, I love you, but Howard Dean was born and raised a Catholic.

26 posted on 01/08/2004 7:14:05 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: billorites
I hope something surprising happens in Iowa, and New Hampshire, and in the South. I hope it becomes a real fight on the Democratic side, and I hope that fight yields up someone who is serious, substantive, and thoughtful. But that's not what I see coming. What I see coming is a Dean nomination followed by a rancorous campaign followed by a Dean defeat.

I love Peggy Noonan, but for once, I wish she'd just shut up and let the RATS eat their own. 8^)

31 posted on 01/08/2004 8:21:49 AM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("Mr. Dean is God's reward to Mr. Bush for doing the right thing in the war on terror."-Dick Morris)
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To: Howlin; Miss Marple; mombonn; Sabertooth; beckett; BlueAngel; JohnHuang2; *Peggy Noonan list; ...
Peggy Ping!
34 posted on 01/08/2004 12:55:05 PM PST by Pokey78 (Steyn: Leftists demonize Wolfowitz because his name begins with a big scary animal and ends Jewishly)
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To: billorites
Like Howie? I'd settle for being able to respect him, but I can't even do that. He's a punk. And he has one of the most unnerving smiles I've seen on a New Englander since Pennywise the clown from Stephen King's "It".
36 posted on 01/08/2004 1:38:03 PM PST by RichInOC (...somebody had to say it...why not me?)
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To: billorites
Step #1 - Find a urinal.

Step #2 - Get some tape.

Step #3 - Go here for Howard Dean cutout.

Step #4 - Tape results from step #3 to item in setp #1.

Step #5 - Drinks lots and lots of water.

Step #6 - See Howard for relief.....

38 posted on 01/08/2004 1:42:08 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Guns!)
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To: billorites
Peggy Noonan's right in her conclusion and Dean's biggest problem, apart from his shortcomings, is that let's face it: he's an average guy. I am 5'7" myself and when you're up against a 6'2" President, its no contest. Americans will never vote for the smaller of two guys; its just human nature. And the reason I can't bring myself to like Dean has nothing to do with his politics. There's such a personal cockiness about him that simply has me repelled. And this isn't cause I'm a Republican but cause I am a human being who wants to like someone who has personal warmth and optimism. Dean projects neither and that's why he will lose in November.
45 posted on 01/09/2004 3:21:56 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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