If this was a sting operation, it would be excellent. You get millions of illegal aliens to register to receive their benefits and they have to provide a current street address, who they worked for and how long, etc. Then, they can be located, arrested, and deported and their law-breaking employers can be severely fined or shut down.
But, this is no sting. Instead this is Bush losing his freaking mind. If amnesty for the invaders was not bad enough, now he wants to give them a cut of my paycheck!!!? This is intolerable!!
If Bush's proposal tomorrow resembles in any way the reports I'm hearing, I don't know what I'm going to do. I supported Bush in the last election, fought for him during the attempted coup, and have defended him against those who oppose our military efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq. But this!!? I don't know if I can stomach this. I really don't.
But, I guess he figures that we're his b***h and he can slap us around all he wants because we have nowhere else to go and no one else to vote for. Battered conservative syndrome...I need some Tylenol. Should we put some ice on it??
1 posted on
01/06/2004 1:53:04 PM PST by
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2 posted on
01/06/2004 1:54:11 PM PST by
Spiff
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This does little to instill my faith in the future of this country, quite the opposite actually.
3 posted on
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To: Spiff
I for one, would much prefer to have a nice sweet data base on all these people.
10 posted on
01/06/2004 2:00:32 PM PST by
OldFriend
(Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
To: Spiff
I don't think even criminals lose their SS benefits; even if they are criminals (and they are) it can be argued that they paid into the system and are entitled to the benefits.
Personally, Bush really chaps me on immigration issues. But what am I gonna do, vote Losertarian?
11 posted on
01/06/2004 2:00:52 PM PST by
Little Ray
(When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!)
To: Spiff
Bush will propose that illegal aliens from Mexico, and possibly other countries, who pay U.S. Social Security taxes, but provide false identification numbers, be allowed to collect benefits.There's a policy that will solve ILLEGAL immigration. Bet my parents feel like real suckers busting their butts to do everything leaglly and get spit on.
15 posted on
01/06/2004 2:02:43 PM PST by
SAMWolf
(I have a rock garden. Last week three of them died.)
To: Spiff
You are not alone. That is about all I can muster at the present.
16 posted on
01/06/2004 2:03:00 PM PST by
ImpBill
("America! ... Where are you now?")
To: Spiff
What a slap in the face to the immigrants who come into this country legally! If Bush loses the next election, this will be the reason.
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17 posted on
01/06/2004 2:03:47 PM PST by
Arizona
To: Spiff
I guess the message is: Shut up and pay your taxes.
To: Spiff
This has got to be the stupidest thing. Is he just posturing to get the immigrant vote, hoping that Congress will nix it? If not, then what on earth is he thinking?
To: Spiff; gubamyster; Paulie; Love America or move to ......; RaceBannon; Oschisms; Cacique; ...
I think some people will be surprised this year at CPAC to see that it has become much more anti-Bush-administration than last year. If I'm not mistaken. And Bush's stand on amnesty and amnesty-type issues is a big part of the problem. We need legal immigration, lots of legal immigration perhaps, with new safeguards in place, but we don't need to reward illegals.
To: Spiff
I saw Laura Ingraham on "Hardball" last night. She made a good point. The Dems that rabidly hate Bush and are still not over the vote count in Florida are energized.
Will conservatives be energized if Bush keeps pulling this nonsense? Whoever works harder to GOTV will win the election.
To: Spiff
President Bush wants to let some of the eight million illegal aliens in the United States move toward legal status without penalty -- but with benefits. His proposals, part of a sweeping change in U.S. immigration policy, will be revealed Wednesday, the Washington Times reported. LOL! Whose working the Ouija board at the WTs these days?
32 posted on
01/06/2004 2:09:50 PM PST by
TheDon
(Have a Happy New Year!)
To: Spiff
There is no end to the sell-out of America on this. Pander and accomodate the illegals at the expense of the American citizen, the American economy, and America's integrity and security.
Bush/Cheney in '04? Hell no.
34 posted on
01/06/2004 2:10:28 PM PST by
StoneColdGOP
(McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
To: Spiff
I have to assume that Presidente Fox actually has pictures of Bush at his last coke party. That is the only thing that makes Bush's action here, rational. This headline, alone. will start a half million new criminal aliens moving north (OK, they are not "criminals" until the break into the US illegally).
Bush will reward these criminals for their years of lies and deceipt. But, the worst thing is, what do we get for it? NOTHING!! Fox will still send drugs north and say its our problem. But, he will not send the water he owes us north because Mexicans need it and he won't extradite criminals because we might be mean to them.
The major effect will be the Mexican criminals who allege they worked several jobs at the same time but under different names and, therefore, way overpaid social security. Pay them, in cash, right now what they say they overpaid. Every Mexican here has two or more sets of ID. Ask any illegal (as I do, here in Texas) a question and, no matter how simple and basic the question, you'll get a story, a fabrication. And now, it appears that we will reward them for past mendacity. This doesn't make sense!! We ghet NOTHING back!!
35 posted on
01/06/2004 2:11:21 PM PST by
Tacis
To: Spiff
This makes me ill. My parents busted their shoes to come here legally and to gain their citizenship. My husband's family served in the Revolutionary, Civil and World Wars. This is demeaning of their collective sacrifices and a slap in the face to all current taxpayers.
To: Spiff
Well, to be fair, none of the specific proposals have been passed yet or even unveiled.
This is clearly not a blanket amnesty (something which Ronald Reagan signed, FWIW)- but rather something... else.
The problem is this folks: we need to win this election. At all costs. Frankly, I think that the records and such might be useful later.
40 posted on
01/06/2004 2:13:27 PM PST by
richrussell
(Go Howard Dean! He's the one we want!)
To: Spiff
Bush, this is not the route you should go if you want to be re-elected. I might just stay home on election day!
43 posted on
01/06/2004 2:15:30 PM PST by
Arpege92
To: Spiff
Bush will propose that illegal aliens from Mexico, and possibly other countries, who pay U.S. Social Security taxes, but provide false identification numbers, be allowed to collect benefits. We need to make sure "the proposal" does not get beyond just that. This is sheer insanity.
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