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Britain's Big Problem

A surprisingly frank piece from the New York Times on the disturbing prevalence of violent jihadist rhetoric in Britain: British Law Against Glorifying Terrorism Has Not Silenced Calls to Kill for Islam.   link: 61 comments

#6 albertanator  8/21/2006 11:49AM PDT
 

I'm afriad this is not only Britian's problem but all Free Western nations ....incredibly we have allowed far far to large of Islamic populations from Germany to America and all points in between....and this is only going to grow worse like a cancer unless something is done drastic....

Islam is the fifth column along with L3's in our Free Nations....we have a growing enemy in our midst that has been trying to kill, enslave or convert us forcibly for over 1400 years...

The West has a huge problem!

#7 logger phd  8/21/2006 11:50AM PDT
 

OT, and I am sure another Lizard has posted, but I just read this (Take Hezbollah off Terrorism List)and it pissed me off at first, then I was grateful that enough Canadians had the sense to keep these jokers out of power. Hezbollah was put on the list by a Liberal government, and already they want to play nice and second-guess that four year old decision.

Meassage to Canadian Liberals, Communists NDP, and other assorted LLLs worldwide: Quit trying to legitimize these animals!

Video: I, A Muslim

The controversial Czech TV documentary “I, A Muslim,” in which a reporter used a hidden camera to record inside mosques, has been posted (with English subtitles) at Google Video by LGF reader “Abu Kafir:” I, a Muslim.

Fauxtography Scandal updates:
BBC Admits Engaging in Staged Photos
Perlmutter: Photojournalism in Crisis
Green Helmet Admits Staging Photos
Still More Photo Staging Identified
Lebanese Autos Miraculously Survive Airstrikes
Photographer Alleges Unearthing of Bodies
LA Times: Take a Closer Look
CAIR's Fauxtography Scandal
AP Stands Behind Green Helmet Guy
LGF Exclusive: How Much Does It Cost to Buy Global TV News?
Multi-Use Buildings
Reuters Doctoring Photos from Beirut?

Monday, August 21, 2006

Britain's Big Problem

A surprisingly frank piece from the New York Times on the disturbing prevalence of violent jihadist rhetoric in Britain: British Law Against Glorifying Terrorism Has Not Silenced Calls to Kill for Islam.

LONDON, Aug. 20 — From his home on the northwest edge of this city, Muhamad al-Massari runs a Web site that celebrates the violent death of British and American soldiers. It is visited by tens of thousands of people every day, he said.

Mr. Massari maintains the Arabic-language site, tajdeed.org.uk, in the face of a strict new law aimed at curtailing violent speech and publishing. Just last week, the Council of Holy Warriors, a group affiliated with Al Qaeda, posted a declaration on the site praising a suicide bombing in Iraq that killed or wounded 55 people.

“If you kill our civilians, we kill your civilians,” Mr. Massari declared during an interview.

Mr. Massari’s Web site, and his public remarks, appear to violate of the Antiterrorism Act of 2006, which makes it a crime to glorify or encourage political violence. Inciting violence has long been illegal here but the new rules, drawn up after the London subway and bus bombings in July 2005, are intended to be much tougher.

The law’s underlying assumption is that speeches and publications by Britain’s more extreme Islamists may play a role in leading disgruntled young men toward violence. In addition to banning speech that encourages terrorism, the new law also criminalizes reckless speech that may have the same effect.

Yet despite the antiglorification law, and an array of other measures approved since last summer’s bombings, Islamist leaders like Mr. Massari persist, some of them declaring it the duty of British Muslims to kill in the name of Islam.

Some British leaders are beginning to publicly question why such clerics are allowed to continue.


BBC Admits Engaging in Staged Photos

In this Lebanon report, the BBC (probably inadvertently) admits that they stood by and took photographs as Hizballah put a child’s life in danger: Dangers await Lebanon returnees. (Hat tip: USS Neverdock.)

When Um Ali Mihdi returned to her home in the southern Lebanese city of Bint Jbeil two days ago, she found a 1,000lb (450kg) Israeli bomb lying unexploded in her living room.

The shell is huge, bigger than the young boy pushed forward to stand reluctantly next to it while we get our cameras out and record the scene for posterity.


Video: I, A Muslim

The controversial Czech TV documentary “I, A Muslim,” in which a reporter used a hidden camera to record inside mosques, has been posted (with English subtitles) at Google Video by LGF reader “Abu Kafir:” I, a Muslim.

Previously at LGF:
Czech TV Documentary Enrages Muslims.link: 66 comments

 
Wrzesnewskyj And Nash - "Death To Jews"

Military historian Victor Davis Hanson has a sobering review of the current situation in the ME and the questionable sympathies of the world press;

The old Arab agenda of recapturing “stolen” land has been superseded by a new Islamist jihad that is as fanatical as it is inhuman. The Islamists care not a whit for ground, but only for the abject destruction of the Jewish state and to finish the Holocaust that they claim did not take place. Few of the pundits now clamoring for “engagement” care to recall that Syria probably murdered Rafik Hariri, or that Iran promises to wipe Israel off the map.

The near criminal indifference of the international community is cause for greater depression still. No one says a thing about horrific Arab racism and anti-Semitism that brazenly offer the world pictures of our secretary of State as a primate and constant hate speech of Jews as apes and pigs. And here at home, a celebrity actor, the staff of a failed congresswoman in Georgia, and a crazed Muslim with a gun in Seattle all shout about the evils of the “Jews” — a good cross-section of just how insidious is the growing anti-Semitism.

The globalized media is absolutely discredited after the coverage of Lebanon. Reuters has destroyed its reputation, gained from 150 years of world reporting, by releasing doctored pictures and tolerating staged photo-ops. Almost all the Western media outlets failed to distinguish Lebanese civilian from military casualties — as if the Hezbollah terrorists they never filmed and never interviewed never died.

Indeed, thanks to the unprofessional reporters abroad, and their disingenuous chiefs back home, the world never saw the killers who sent the rockets nor many of their civilian victims on the ground in Israel. Nor did the reporters apprise their audience of the different landscapes in which they worked: candor in Israel might win loud disagreement; truth in Lebanon meant death. It would be as if Reuters, AP, or the New York Times embedded its reporters within the Waffen SS, beaming daily reports back home about the great morale and noble suffering of the Wehrmacht as it advanced into the snowy Ardenn.


... and near the end gets something wrong;
In an amorphous war of self-induced Western restraint, like the present one, truth and moral clarity are as important as military force. This past month, the world of the fascist jihadist and those who tolerate him was once again on display for civilization to fathom. Even the most timid and prone to appeasement in the West are beginning to see that it is becoming a question of “the Islamists or us.”

In this eleventh hour, that is a sort of progress after all.


Or rather, is proven wrong. Returning from Lebanon after spending a few days as guests of Hezbollah, two Canadian politicians have established themselves as this year's leading contenders for the Nobel Prize In Bad Judgement,
It would aid the cause of peace if Canada dropped Hezbollah from a list of banned terrorist organizations, according to two Canadian MPs on a fact-finding mission to Lebanon.

When asked if he were in favour of Hezbollah being taken off the terror list, Etobicoke Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj said: "Yes, I would be."

He likened the situation in the Middle East to Northern Ireland, where "if there wasn't the possibility for London to negotiate with the IRA, you'd still have bombings."

"Hezbollah has a political wing, they have members of parliament, they have two cabinet ministers," Wrzesnewskyj said. "You want to encourage politicians in this military organization so that the centre of gravity shifts to them."

New Democrat Peggy Nash, who represents the Toronto riding of Parkdale-High Park, said her discussions in Lebanon had led her to believe "that it is just not helpful to label them a terrorist organization."

"If the political parties in Lebanon who may disagree with Hezbollah, and be opposed to them and their philosophy, can figure out a way to work with Hezbollah and try to get along internally, then perhaps we should take a cue from that."

This was the message that both MPs said they would bring back to their caucuses, and eventually to the House of Commons, when they return to Canada this week.


Unbelievable.

Related - How Islamic Terrorists Manipulate the Media

Also - lots this morning on this at Blogging Tories.

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Europeans Starting To Understand Nature Of Islamofascist Enemy

Germans have begun to wonder why terrorists hate them, especially since they have steadfastly stood against the Iraq War, but hate them they do. As one man goes on trial for attempting a deadly terrorist strike on the German rail system, the Times of London reports on the panic felt by the Germans themselves: Posted by Captain Ed at 05:36 AM | Comments (24)

Germany Begins To Wake Up About Terrorism

August 21st, 2006

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CAIR wants YOU to write to C-Span!

Jihad Watch reader (and first-class link referrer) Twostellas has informed me that there is a CAIR Action Alert against me:

Action: Islam-Basher to Appear on C-SPAN

ISLAM-BASHER TO APPEAR ON C-SPAN

ACTION ALERT: Robert Spencer, the publisher of "Jihad Watch," will appear Sunday, August 20, on a PRE-TAPED C-SPAN "Q&A" segment.

In his book "Guide for Catholics," http://watchjihadwatch.blogspot.com/2006/05/bias.html

"Islam itself is an incomplete, misleading, and often downright false revelation which, in many ways, directly contradicts what God has revealed through the prophets of the Old Testament and through his Son Jesus Christ, the Word made flesh.. . .For several reasons. . .Islam constitutes a threat to the world at large.

The subtitle of Spencer's forthcoming book claims Islam is "the World's Most Intolerant Religion."

Please watch the program and then contact C-SPAN to express your concerns about the network's decision to provide air-time to someone whose website promotes bigotry and hatred.

SEE: http://www.q-and-a.org/Program/?ProgramID=1086

CONTACT: viewer@c-span.org

COPY TO: info@cair.com

A few observations:

1. CAIR's source for this is Watching Jihad Watch, a site whose anonymous operator has thoroughly discredited himself to any fair-minded observer by lying many times, in quite obvious fashon, about my positions and my work, and who is so inveterately dishonest that he has even lied about revealing his own name. Details here (scroll down). (Addendum: His lies continue. A reader just emailed to tell me that his latest post, from August 20, excoriates me for not pointing out that Muslim tipsters helped expose the British airline plot. Oops: I pointed that out on August 17.)

2. The "Action Alert" quotes a book that I cowrote several years ago, ignoring the two bestsellers that I wrote on my own. This is fair enough, as I certainly do not disavow Inside Islam: A Guide for Catholics, but I do think it's interesting that they can't find anything they can use in A) books I am fully responsible for, with no coauthor; and B) books that sold ten or twenty or 100 times more copies than Inside Islam.

Note also the substance of their scare quote. It is, in sum, an affirmation of Christian belief and of non-belief in Islam. If CAIR succeeds in presenting that as "bigotry" or "Islam bashing," they will have essentially ruled out of polite society and the public discourse any affirmation of a religious faith other than Islam and concomitant rejection of Islam. Obviously Islam does contradict the Old and New Testaments, or it would not be a religion separate from Christianity and Judaism. One might only find the pointing out of this offensive if one subscribes to the supremacist Muslim view that the original Jewish and Christian Scriptures were Islamic texts, and that the present versions of them are corruptions of those Islamic texts. In other words, CAIR is trying to impose the Islamic perspective on the rest of us under the guise of cries of "bigotry." This is a matter of freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and more.

Let me repeat that: CAIR is condemning as "bigotry" a simple affirmation of Christian faith.

They also include part of a quote in which Daniel Ali and I say Islam constitutes a "threat." But this should be obvious also. Even if the jihadists do twist and hijack Islam as CAIR claims publicly, they arise from within Islam. And CAIR has done little or nothing effective to counter this threat among Muslims.

3. It's ironic that CAIR would take umbrage at the subtitle of my forthcoming book, The Truth About Muhammad: Founder of the World's Most Intolerant Religion, in the context of trying to silence me and scold C-Span for giving me airtime. How tolerant!

4. This website does not promote bigotry and hatred. This website tells the truth about how Islamic jihadists promote bigotry and hatred, as well as violence against non-Muslims. I challenge CAIR -- Nihad Awad, Ibrahim Hooper, Hussam Ayloush, anyone -- to produce even a single statement that I (not unmoderated commenters, since Muslims as well as non-Muslims, and jihad supporters as well as anti-jihadists post here) have written that says something false about Islam. I also would be happy to debate anyone. Nihad, Ibrahim, Hussam, you can contact me at director@jihadwatch.org.

5. CAIR exhorts its minions to contact C-Span at the email link above. I don't usually do this, but I think in the name of freedom of speech that it is worth asking you to write to C-Span also, at viewer@c-span.org. Tell them what you think of the interview with me last night. Tell them whether or not you think I promoted bigotry and hatred, or said anything false at all.

You might also wish to tell them about CAIR. CAIR recently dropped a suit contesting these propositions -- evidently they could not disprove them:

· “Let their [sic] be no doubt that CAIR is a terrorist supporting front organization that is partially funded by terrorists, and that CAIR wishes nothing more than the implementation of Sharia law in America.”

· CAIR is an “organization founded by Hamas supporters which seeks to overthrow Constitutional government in the United States and replace it with an Islamist theocracy using our own Constitution as protection.”

· “ACAIR reminds our readers that CAIR was started by Hamas members and is supported by terrorist supporting individuals, groups and countries.”

· “Why oppose CAIR? CAIR has proven links to, and was founded by, Islamic terrorists. CAIR is not in the United States to promote the civil rights of Muslims. CAIR is here to make radical Islam the dominant religion in the United States and convert our country into an Islamic theocracy along the lines of Iran. In addition, CAIR has managed, through the adroit manipulation of the popular media, to present itself as the ‘moderate’ face of Islam in the United States. CAIR succeeded to the point that the majority of its members are not aware that CAIR actively supports terrorists and terrorist supporting groups and nations. In addition, CAIR receives direct funding from Islamic terrorists supporting countries.”

· “CAIR is a fundamentalist organization dedicated to the overthrow of the United States Constitution and the installation of an Islamic theocracy in America.”

CAIR is with this Action Alert again behaving like a schoolyard bully, a thug engaging in intimidation tactics. I challenge CAIR to drop the attempt to bully C-Span and silence me -- which they are trying to without demonstrating that anything I have said is false or damaging in any way -- and to meet me instead in an honest and open debate. Write to C-Span and let them know what you think.

Posted by Robert at 09:49 AM | Comments (58)
 
CAIR Smears Jihad Watch

The Council on American Islamic Relations is whining, seething, and doing one of their trademark “Action Alert” smear jobs (intended to provoke their members into harassing and muzzling their critics), in response to Robert Spencer’s appearance last night on C-SPAN: CAIR wants YOU to write to C-Span!

UPDATE at 8/21/06 9:44:55 am:

To counter this predictable smear campaign, you can send an email to C-SPAN and thank them for the show at viewer@c-span.org.

Download the Spencer Interview and Pass It Around!

You can watch the show with RealPlayer here: Q&A: Robert Spencer. And here’s the transcriptlink: 143 commentsEat At Adolf's

From the “World Gone Nuts” file:

Previously at LGF:
Hong Kong Nazi Chiclink: 268 comments

 

Is Tomorrow Doomsday?

Iran to Nuke Israel Tommorow?

Iranian talk of an attack on America (a report from 2 years ago that needs to be reread today)


1,118 posted on 08/21/2006 1:54:48 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: backhoe

good references


1,119 posted on 08/21/2006 2:11:23 PM PDT by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006- No!! You cannot have my governor in 2008.)
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