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To: dc27
She is still "tired."

In spite of all the carping about not being appreciated, loved, shown affection, helped, as being the cause of lack of female sexual interest, there is one sure fire way to make her initiate: Stop trying. She will notice your lack of interest and it can be quite alarming for her.

Women, in spite of their general disinterest in the act, definitely want to be desired. They are perfectly willing to turn you down a thousand times, but they are also desparately afraid of losing the opportunity to turn you down.

Of course this sort of manipulation is incredibly destructive.

293 posted on 01/06/2004 3:26:27 PM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: hopespringseternal
People can be overly paranoid about the word manipulation.

Every interchance could be construed as a manipulation to get more of what we want at the least cost to us.




One standard treatment of such things is to forbid sexual relations for X weeks . . . even XX weeks. To structure a series of interactions which are designed to increase the focus on the other person; the focus on sensations etc.

Toward the end of the time, massage sessions are scheduled wherein the two are FORBIDDEN to let the massage develop into sexual relations.

The object is to focus on PLEASURING the other person with 0.00% demand or even expectation of a return.

If done well, the other person who's typically known as the withholder, will eventually get her buckets more filled and begin to playfully respond. If the husband plays it right, he will pleasure her well enough with NON SEDUCTIVE massage that she will begin to ascribe to the sensations sexual overtones and respond accordingly.

But the husband must AUTHENTICALLY surrender his expectations and determine to pleasure the wife, please her, focus on her etc.
410 posted on 01/06/2004 9:51:52 PM PST by Quix (Particularly quite true conspiracies are rarely proven until it's too late to do anything about them)
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