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The Demons of Europe (Why the Crapweasels hate America and Israel. {For serious minds only!})
Commentary Magazine ^ | January 2004 | Josef Joffe

Posted on 01/04/2004 1:52:26 PM PST by quidnunc

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To: gatorbait
Along with the desire to use our armed forces as Hessians around the world, Europe wants to crush us economically and in every other way. The article posted was well worth reading, very thought provoking. The idea that Europe finds it much more palatable to transfer all their past and present sins to us, rather than face the failure they've become. People do this, too. It never works. They drag around their baggage and never make progress. No wonder we blow right past them technologically and in every other way.
21 posted on 01/04/2004 4:19:12 PM PST by hershey
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To: quidnunc
DOUBLE PLUS BUMP!!!
22 posted on 01/04/2004 4:32:01 PM PST by eclectic
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To: quidnunc
I Love living in the Greatest Nation on Earth and in human history. This article reinforces what we have.
23 posted on 01/04/2004 5:03:15 PM PST by Helms (Free Republic = The Best Aphorisms on the Internet)
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To: quidnunc
Lacking certain murderous elements of the classical type...

Don't you believe it. Those elements are just as much a part of modern anti-Semitism as they ever were. The difference between the Israelis now and their central European predecessors then is that the Israelis shoot back.

24 posted on 01/04/2004 5:11:40 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: quidnunc
Much too wordy to say what was said and jumped to too many tangents... guess I'm too stupid for this guy...

25 posted on 01/04/2004 5:29:28 PM PST by hosepipe
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To: hershey
They drag around their baggage and never make progress. No wonder we blow right past them technologically and in every other way.

You're precisely correct.Eurppeans seem to think that by looking into antiquity and pretending squalor is sophistication,they retain some kind of warped,self hating superiority. They gain nothing of the sort.They sound like a large group of over grown teenagers in their bleatings.

26 posted on 01/04/2004 5:56:40 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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Here the key theme is conspiracy: thus, Jews want to sully our racial purity, or subvert our sacred traditions or, above all, to achieve domination.

The problem is that the author is unable to distinguish between racism, religous conflict, and political opposition. For non-Jews, these are three rather different things.

Some are anti-Semitic on racial grounds, and indeed, this seems to me to be the primary basis for past genocide against Jews. However, I think it is pretty rare, both in Europe and in the US.

Christians and Muslims may see Judaism as a religion that is somewhere between mis-guided and heretical. The former Christian view that Jews were guilty of murdering Christ has fallen out of favor. Muslims now have the more negative view of Judaism, partly because of their inability to separate religion from politics. Hindus, Buhdists, Confucianists, Shinto, agnostics and atheists don't much care one way or the other.

The political category has two dimensions. Some oppose Israel as a state on the grounds that it is racist (giving preferences to matrilineal descendents of Jews) and a theocracy (giving preferences to adherents of Judaism, particularly the Orthodox). Others oppose politically active Jews within their country (US, France, wherever), who strive to use the mechanisms of democracy to muster the foreign policy and defense resources of their country to the aid of Israel.

Of these three, racism is reprehensible, religious conflict is just silly, and political opposition to Israel and its local fan club is a legitimate topic for democratic debate.

27 posted on 01/04/2004 6:47:42 PM PST by Lessismore
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28 posted on 01/04/2004 6:51:38 PM PST by Mrs Zip
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To: quidnunc
Definitely one for the printer. My eyes can't read that much text on the screen.
30 posted on 01/04/2004 9:14:32 PM PST by GulliverSwift (Howard Dean is the Joker's insane twin brother.)
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I am a firm supporter of Israel's rights to defend itself but have always been concerned with the religious discrimination that prevails in the country. I wish presidents would make this a higher priority and let the Israelis decide the best way to handle the Palestinians Arabs.
31 posted on 01/04/2004 9:18:56 PM PST by GulliverSwift (Howard Dean is the Joker's insane twin brother.)
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[I am a firm supporter of Israel's rights to defend itself but have always been concerned with the religious discrimination that prevails in the country.]

The religious discrimination that prevails in the hearts of terrorist Muslims and discriminatory neo Nazi democrats concerns me.


32 posted on 11/18/2005 5:09:11 AM PST by ohhhh (Even so, come, Lord Jesus.)
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[The fourth step is demonization. Here the key theme is conspiracy: thus, Jews want to sully our racial purity, or subvert our sacred traditions or, above all, to achieve domination. Finally comes the determination to seek an end to troubles by eliminating the alleged source of torment, be it by exclusion, extrusion, or annihilation.]

The national socialist Adolf Hitler thought so to and looked what happened.
May God and His only begotten Son Jesus Christ bless Israel and save America from the national socialist left wing neo nazi democrat party.


33 posted on 11/18/2005 5:12:57 AM PST by ohhhh (Even so, come, Lord Jesus.)
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[And here is another way in which both Israel and the U.S. offer an excellent canvas for the projection of others' superior self-image. Do not the two countries behave in the brutish ways we Europeans have at last unlearned? They are Hobbes and Machiavelli, we are Kant and Rousseau. They insist on war and domination, we on peace and community.]

God blesses those who bless Israel and curses those who curse Israel.
The LORD Jesus Christ blesses us BECAUSE WE BELIEVE HIM and no self serving, word spewing, arrogant european national socialist understand this simple fact. They are athiests and continually worship at the alter of Cain and refuse to accept the fact they are dying because of their unbelief if Jesus Christ.
European nations turn their back on God, lost his blessings and envy America and Israel because of God's blessings.
An ignorant and stupid people are these arrogant fools.

"Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord, but sin is a reproach to any people."

Simple, but it requires faith in the Lord Jesus Christ only.


34 posted on 11/18/2005 5:27:04 AM PST by ohhhh (Even so, come, Lord Jesus.)
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The psychic mechanism goes like this: if the Jews could be shown to behave like Nazis, they would no longer have a special moral claim on us; if they are as bad as our forefathers, we can unshoulder our own inherited burden of guilt.

I don't know if this is correct pseudo-psychiatry, but it really rings a logic bell with me.

35 posted on 02/10/2006 6:17:23 AM PST by WarEagle (This is obviously Karl Rove's fault...)
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