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Egypt rules out terrorism in Red Sea plane crash
Agence France-Presse
| 1/04/04
Posted on 01/03/2004 11:36:24 AM PST by kattracks
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
The Tampa teen kamikaze used the phrase "terrorist" acts to describe his own flight (which ended when he flew into a bank) yet the press and officials said that was not an act of terrorism either. The word appears in the first sentence of his suicide note but it has been crossed out (by someone, the kid or someone else; pictures are online).
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posted on
01/03/2004 1:42:51 PM PST
by
weegee
To: kattracks
Terrorism and technical problems are not mutually exclusive. Terrorists could certainly sabotage a plane.
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posted on
01/03/2004 1:48:36 PM PST
by
Hugin
To: Hugin
from their web site:
http://www.flashtour.com/airline.htm
Flash Airlines both aircrafts are insured for legal and third party liability and passenger, liability by El Shark Insurance Company for an amount of 550 Millions USD for each aircraft.
mmmmh....I'm thinking that Flash Airlines with 2 planes insured by El shark Insurance might not be my carrier of choice.
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posted on
01/03/2004 1:55:06 PM PST
by
Covenantor
(IX-XI-MMI)
To: Hugin
Terrorism and technical problems are not mutually exclusive. Terrorists could certainly sabotage a plane.
bingo. thank you for saying it.
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posted on
01/03/2004 2:23:30 PM PST
by
Bobby777
To: Covenantor
The company might put some thought into changing the name from Flash after this incident
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posted on
01/03/2004 2:27:28 PM PST
by
priceofreedom
(On A Roadmap To Hell)
To: BradyLS
Don't forget that 737's have had a number of problems with the rudder. Boeing supposedly told companies how to fix the screw type mechanism that controls the rudder. Maybe this wasn't fixed?
Air Alaska went down off California a few years ago because of this.
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posted on
01/03/2004 2:43:44 PM PST
by
brooklin
To: brooklin
I think the Air Alaska was a DC-9?
The problem was with Jack Screw in the Horizontal Stabilizer. The problem with the 737s was in the hydraulic
system
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posted on
01/03/2004 4:07:57 PM PST
by
cpdiii
(RPH, and Oil Field Trash (an educated roughneck))
To: cpdiii
Thanks your right.
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posted on
01/03/2004 4:19:48 PM PST
by
brooklin
To: brooklin
IN other news, Egypt rules out roundness of earth.
To: kattracks
So they have no communication from the plane, no black boxes, no technical evidence of any kind, just a plane crashed into the ocean, and they are ready to conclude that terrorism was not involved.
What, does a terrorist incident make a different kind of splash?
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posted on
01/03/2004 7:42:19 PM PST
by
gridlock
(There's no such thing as idiot-proof, only idiot-resistant. The ingenuity of idiots knows no bounds)
To: cpdiii
The Air Alaska crash was an MD-80, IIRC.
This is a 737-300:
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posted on
01/04/2004 12:31:28 AM PST
by
ZOOKER
To: thesummerwind; Cicero; Boundless
NEW YORK (CNN) -- Federal investigators said they are considering whether "wake turbulence" from another airplane may have played a role in the crash of a commercial jet that crashed Monday, scattering debris over a Queens neighborhood and claiming more than 260 lives. The turbulence from a plane that took off shortly before American Airlines flight 587 could have been a factor in the crash, investigators said Tuesday. At least 262 people died when the aircraft went down while en route from John F. Kennedy International Airport to Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic. According to the jet's cockpit voice recorder, recovered from the crash site in Rockaway, a rattle emanates from the plane's mainframe before the jet is in the air two minutes, said National Transportation Safety Board Member George Black. Ten seconds later - when flight 587 has been aloft 114 seconds -- the pilot is heard commenting on encountering a "wake effect." The wake was from a Japan Airways Boeing 747 that had taken off minutes earlier, Black said.
Then, the recorder transmits the sound of a second rattle. At 127 seconds, there are comments suggesting loss of control in the aircraft, Black said.
One thing we can all be sure of.
Marion Blakey new head of the NTSB, doesn't know a tinkers damn about airplanes or investigating aircraft accidents.
This hack snake in the grass has absolutely no aviation experience, yet she goes in front of the cameras with her NTSB jacket on like she's some kind of expert and then states that there was "no evidence of terrorism".
This is exactly a lie, there is lots more evidence from eyewitness accounts and the unprecedented mid-air break up of the plane to suggest terrorism than there is to suggest mechanical failure.
The real NTSB investigators, in response to reporters questions, have repeatedly stated that they CANNOT RULE OUT TERRORISM.
The NTSB with her at it's head has lost all credibility.
It is never easy for the incoming head of the nation's lead safety agency, but Marion Blakey faces perhaps the toughest on-the-job training in the history of the National Transportation Safety Board.
A career Washington bureaucrat and lobbyist, Blakey was sworn in as the NTSB's chairwoman Sept. 26, barely 2 weeks after terrorists brought down four passenger jets.
Flight 587 was brought down by a shoe bomb, and the NTSB lied.
Those 262 civilized human beings deserve better than that.
They were victims of the terrorists, and should be recognized as such.
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posted on
01/04/2004 12:39:04 AM PST
by
Rome2000
(Ban "Jihad", not smoking)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Kind of depends on what they know at this point. The lack of debris tends to suggest that the plane went into the water in one piece. He have no reports of anybody hearing an explosion. Not any witnesses, not in air traffic control, not on the cell call that was made from the plane. There's no sign of a hijacking either.
So saying it's not terrorism may be a bit premature, but that is the way is looks.
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posted on
01/04/2004 1:19:14 AM PST
by
MattAMiller
(Saddam has been brought to justice in my name. How about yours?)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; FairOpinion; seamole; kattracks; Cicero; Paladin2; ZOOKER; Sir Gawain; ...
Egypt rules out terrorism in Red Sea plane crashPark Police (Ft. Marcy) rule out foul play in Foster death.
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posted on
01/04/2004 2:42:02 PM PST
by
thesummerwind
(Images of broken light which dance before me like a million eyes)
To: kattracks
Egypt rules out terrorism in Red Sea plane crashJapanese rule out "alleged" participation at Pearl Harbor.
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posted on
01/04/2004 2:50:13 PM PST
by
geedee
(Liberals tend to worry about right and left and leave the right and wrong for others to sort out.)
To: FairOpinion
Lots of interesting coincidences!
No evidence for any particular cause of the accident.
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posted on
01/04/2004 3:48:48 PM PST
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(Davis is now out of Arnoold's Office , Bout Time!!!!)
To: kattracks
Unknown Islamists claim Egyptian plane attack
Mon 5 January, 2004 15:19
CAIRO (Reuters) - An anonymous caller claiming to represent a previously unknown Islamic group says they brought down the Egyptian plane which crashed into the Red Sea on Saturday, killing 148 people.
The man told an international news agency in Cairo that the Yemen-based group Ansar al-Haq (Followers of the Truth) would also attack Air France planes unless the French government drops plans to ban Islamic headscarves from state schools.
There was no way to check the claim of the caller, who said he was an Egyptian member of the group.
The Egyptian government has ruled out a deliberate attack on the Boeing 737 charter plane, which crashed shortly after take-off from the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh. The dead included 133 French tourists.
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