What liberalism hath wrought.
1 posted on
01/03/2004 10:49:15 AM PST by
neverdem
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2 posted on
01/03/2004 10:51:11 AM PST by
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To: neverdem
I'm 57 years old and went through 12 years of elementary/junior high/high school without once ever seeing a policeman inside a school building, let alone having a student arrested.
We certainly have advanced, haven't we.
Jack
3 posted on
01/03/2004 10:52:24 AM PST by
JackOfVA
To: neverdem
Probably she just copped an attitude.....kewl dude!
4 posted on
01/03/2004 10:53:47 AM PST by
breakem
To: neverdem
Expectations matter.
If you tread kids like criminals, they're more likely to act like criminals, unless you come down on them so hard it breaks their natural rebeliousness. The problem is when you try this, you inevitably run into a few real hard cases who only get worse when you impose rules. I was kind of like that back in my day; luckily I avoided serious trouble long enough to make it to more stable ground.
5 posted on
01/03/2004 10:56:01 AM PST by
logan
To: neverdem
"What liberalism hath wrought."
When there is no moral right or wrong and it is all relative, what do you expect?
I agree with you.
To: neverdem
The girl won't obey the principle or her mother, keep suspending her til she gets the message. It shouldn't be a matter for the courts.
But since the principle and the mother are acting like children, this could have been predicted.
Soon the police will throw up their hands too, and we'll have to call out the National Guard on disruptive smartasses under 18.
To: neverdem
You mean parents can take their children to a nudist resort in Florida and everything is hunky-dory.....but this schoolgirl gets arrested?!?
To: neverdem
Experts say the growing criminalization of student misbehavior can be traced to the broad zero-tolerance policies
If you teach kids that they have no rights whatsoever, then kids will eventually view, as they grow older, that their elders and peers are undeserving of rights as well.
Zero-tolerance policies teach kids that the United States is NOT the land of the free.
To: neverdem
Oh, the irony! The courts have walked hand-in-hand with the liberals running the schools as they took away almost everything that was good and decent and moral in our schools. Now the results of their actions are showing up daily in their courtroom and they don't like it.
How about giving our kids back something to believe in besides their own egos. No moral compass means no moral direction. We are all paying a price way out of proportion with demand.
10 posted on
01/03/2004 11:05:35 AM PST by
whereasandsoforth
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To: neverdem
Well, if you're arrested, you're entitled to legal counsel and a fair trial.
I'd particularly like to see the trial of that eight-year-old. It might top the Chicago 7.
To: neverdem
Her mom should have taken her home and kicked her ass.
15 posted on
01/03/2004 11:11:58 AM PST by
Poser
To: neverdem
What has also changed, Dr. Steinberg said, is that principals are less able to depend on parents to enforce the discipline schools mete out. "I think in the past the threat of getting in touch with a kid's parents was often enough to get a kid to start behaving," he said. "Now, kids feel parents will fight on their behalf." well, there it is. unless you work with today's PARENTS, you don't know. you just don't know. between them and the teachers' unions, we have spawned some serious problems in school systems. why would a kid behave when parents are worse than the kids? and why would teachers bother to have high standards when parents attack them? and why would teachers' unions want to do anything than what they are doing when they get away with protecting incompetent teachers who don't give a rat's hindend about what kids learn?
it's depressing.
16 posted on
01/03/2004 11:12:37 AM PST by
wildwood
To: neverdem
When Rudy Gulliani(sp?) first started arresting pan handlers and having the police give citations to landlords who did not fix broken windows I thought he was crazy. After all New York had too many major problems for the authorities to be dealing with such small concerns. But, Rudy had good scientific theory behind his actions.
Now look at the results. Time Square is cleaned up and the crime rate has dropped dramatically. Deal with the small problems and the big ones take care of themselves. Bravo to the school district for arresting this snotty little twit. I bet she doesn't pull this stunt again.
To: neverdem
I am not sure that you can maintain order in any environment,when you are dealing with individuals who have no respect for authority, no fear of authority, and they cannot be humiliated because they have no shame. The question is where do you place sociopaths. We placed one in the Oval Office and society is still paying for that mistake.
To: neverdem
The 54% minority account for 65% of the problems? Using the courts to fix the problems will not last long with those numbers.
I'd be more interested in the data on singlr parent homes vs. mother/father homes. My bet is that the brave and wonderful single moms that Oprah has deified are doing more damage to our society than anyone has ever dreamed. Want a round of applause on daytime TV? Just identify yourself as having 4 kids and being a single mom!
32 posted on
01/03/2004 1:23:37 PM PST by
Tacis
To: neverdem
We don't need highly paid school administrators anymore. A clerical worker can make the judgment and pick up a phone and call the cops.
Since zero-tolerance came into being, vice principals are no longer necessary.
38 posted on
01/03/2004 3:08:52 PM PST by
ladylib
To: neverdem
the juges that are bitching are the problem the have the power to say hety this is a school matter not criminial case dismissed with prejudice then when they do that for every single case the principles wil l stop calling the cops
44 posted on
01/03/2004 5:16:57 PM PST by
freepatriot32
(today it was the victory act tomorrow its victory coffee, victory cigarettes...)
To: neverdem
From the article:
Although few statistics are available, anecdotal evidence suggests that such cases are on the rise. Just how much "anecdotal" evidence is there? The NYSlimes believe anecdotes ae sufficient in a story like this, but not for any number of stories regarding student achievement? The examples seem pretty rare, and smack of the liberal mod-op of drawing a conclusion, and then scavenging for "facts" that support the conclusion. My conclusion --> this story is bogus.
51 posted on
01/04/2004 5:50:10 AM PST by
buzzyboop
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