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To: Conservative_Nationalist
Kim Jong Il considers nuclear weapons essential to the survival of his regime. He will not give them up under any circumstances.

By his calculation, we will not attack another nuclear armed state. He also sees rich, nuclear free neighbors who may be inclined to pay him off rather than risk his state failing. The implicit threat of the 'madman with nukes' routine is that if he's going down, everyone's going down with him. Much of Kim's carefully cultivated image of being insane is to scare the neighbors into giving him what he wants, but if his regime falls, he will not go quietly.

He is sane, but badly warped. He views his state as his by natural right, and his citizens as slaves to his will. His concern for them only extends to their capability to serve his interests. Whether or not they starve by the millions, or burn in nuclear fire, is simply not his concern. He cares only about maintaining power and obedience. His entire nation is a gulag, a nightmare realm of misery, starvation, and cult like leader worship.

Kim Jong Il has powerful enemies abroad, and a society he dare not try and reform. This type of person will never, ever be motivated to disarm. He must either have nuclear weapons, or lose his grip on power.

12 posted on 01/02/2004 2:02:38 AM PST by Steel Wolf (The Original One Man Crusading Jingoist Imperialist Capitalist Running Dog Paper Tiger himself)
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To: Steel Wolf
His regime is a nightmare and Kim is unstable.I did want to ..perhaps ,have a glimmer of hope for more than 3 minutes!
14 posted on 01/02/2004 2:18:37 AM PST by MEG33 (We Got Him!)
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To: Steel Wolf
Info on their tactical chemical/biological weapons or the schedule for moving our troops to a safer area?
15 posted on 01/02/2004 2:27:37 AM PST by getgoing
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To: Steel Wolf
"Kim Jong Il considers nuclear weapons essential to the survival of his regime."

I know he believes this but I think he's wrong. I believe his regime is in more danger if it keeps it's nukes than it would be if it gave them up. I don't think we would invade them if they gave up their nukes but I feel we will use some kind of strike against them sooner or later if they continue behaving the way they have been.
17 posted on 01/02/2004 2:34:12 AM PST by Conservative_Nationalist
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To: Steel Wolf
but if his regime falls, he will not go quietly

I'm not sure (in honest ignorance) that this is entirely clear or obvious. How much is really publicly known about the structure of KJI's regime? Has, for instance, he regularly purged the military and ruling councils like Saddam did, and been able to reply principly on trusted family members (isn't he a bachelor?) or are there permanent cabals that he's dependent on and may have to answer to in some circumstances? Not that a military dictatorship would be that much of an improvement (or even would fully qualify as a "regime fall") but I wouldn't be so sure that a bloodless coup couldn't happen.

31 posted on 01/02/2004 9:59:51 AM PST by Stultis
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