A Plan to Save American Manufacturing

TradeAlert.org ^ | Wednesday, December 31, 2003 | Kevin L. Kearns, Alan Tonelson, and William Hawkins

[ninenot]

Another factual mis-statement (but you've swallowed the BS from the Bushbots--so it's not your fault.)

In fact, the contracts will go to firms who have operations in co-operating countries.

There is NO firm which does NOT have an operation in a co-operating country.

Thus, ALL firms (e.g., Schlumberger, French-owned with significant US operations) WILL get US tax dollars to rebuild Iraq.

[ninenot]

Actually, Erik, or whatever your PRC name is, that list is not "philosphy" it is fact. Every single line.

Beijing's calling. Pick up the phone.

[ex-snook]

"Now if you want to know WHY there's a lack of consumer spending in Japan, you only need look at the demographics. They have no children, to speak of.

These are great points as was the rest of your post. You pierced the propaganda of the World State Journal.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

You "Arm-Chair Economists" are Hilarius!

Ever since Ross (Parrot) Perot whined about NAFTA, you know, "That giant suckin' sound." and the pending doom of our economy, loss of manufacturing, etc....

It fueled one of the largest economic booms in the history of this country!

Our economy will adjust to the demands of the free market as it always has and prosper. The economy is already doing just that.

You and your buddies should just go back to your isolationist bunkers and shiver in fear, while the rest of us prosper from our positive attitudes.

[ninenot]

Thanks, and happy new year to you.

Someday, you might actually READ the stats, assuming you're capable.

Perot was right, but it was only when China joined WTO at X42's insistence that the exodus started. Of course, you knew that, right?

And, BTW, you ALSO knew that X42's Commerce Department LIED about the GDP during the last 1.5 years of his Presidency--so AlGore could talk about the wonderful economy.

Go look at the revisions and the real numbers, noting particularly the realities since 1998.

[hedgetrimmer]

It fueled one of the largest economic booms in the history of this country!

The economic boom where the small guy 401k investors lost a trillion dollars in just as few short months at the end of the 1990s? Yeah, it was a boom alright. The boom of an economy imploding in on itself, based on antagonistic policies of the federal government and foreign nations.

[Mortimer Snavely]

East Asian economics make markets tools for the expansion of geo-political power. It ain't about making money, it ain't about the people investing for future financial independence, it's about having economies of scale. Control of capital and commodities, and the ability to dictate terms that such control enables, is what it's all about. All this talk about, for instance, the Red Chinese "tasting the fruits of capitalism and freedom" is a lot of dung. It ignores the essential collectivist ideology which has motivated these countries for thousands of years, which sees individualism as an absolute social evil.

Simultaneously, we've got American jackasses making their fortunes by selling off core industries, R&D facilities, and technical expertise which further strengthens East Asian National Socialism, all the while singing praises of capitalism and freedom, describing the process as a Good Thing for the USA. The mind rejects what the senses can't deny. These people are nuts.

[Mortimer Snavely]

"You and your buddies should just go back to your isolationist bunkers and shiver in fear, while the rest of us prosper from our positive attitudes."

Your mentality allows for the sale of weapons to those who stay awake late at night figuring out ways to kill or control us all.

But thanks for the optimism. Can't be too optimistic, eh, what?

[RLK]

The Japanese have proved that this does not work. Japan protected their industries and jobs against foreign competition and have been suffering the longest recession in their history.

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Protectionism, as you would call it, is not the reason for Japan's problems. Japan has few natural resources. They must trade engineering and industrial expertise, and industrial processing, for ores, petroleum, and other materials. Thus, Japan is dependent upon exports. If China can underprice and undercut Japanese exports, Japan will fall. Now, guess which country is increasing their exports exponentially and displacing Japan's exports.

[Erik Latranyi]

We have no Free Market sir!

Which is it? Is it the free market that is the problem or a centrally controlled market that is the problem?

[Erik Latranyi]

Japan's economic "recession" is a chimera;

Tell that to my Japanese friends who are living through it.

[Erik Latranyi]

Go build a steel plant in 90 days so we can have military preparedness.

According to you, the steel industry is just fine. I guess we don't have to build those plants for a war effort, we will just use those on hand now.

[Erik Latranyi]

Too many people STILL don't understand that it is, in reality, war...

Competition is always compared to war. Those who go on the defensive lose. Those that continue to hone their skills on the offensive win. That is why our economy will win, because we do not protect it and let it stagnate, which is all that protection does.

[Mortimer Snavely]

The way the Japanese economy is designed, all Japanese folks could work 20 hours a day, afford only a daily rice ball for food, and be able to sleep in capsule hotels and they'd still have absolute global control of key technology, if that was what it would take.

[Erik Latranyi]

Europe may have lost some jobs to the USA in the early 20th--but that had to do with the USA's growth of industry, NOT with the Europeans deliberately exporting their jobs to this country.

And we are seeing a growth of industry in China today.

[Erik Latranyi]

In fact, the contracts will go to firms who have operations in co-operating countries.

Then it really isn't protectionism, isn't it?

You can't have it both ways.

[Mortimer Snavely]

I lived there for ten years. The Japanese economy is not designed to improve the lot of the individual, it's designed to gain control of key technology. The standard of living of the individual Japanese isn't regarded.

[Erik Latranyi]

...or whatever your PRC name is...

I warned you about name-calling. I will no longer respond to your posts since you cannot have a real debate and wish to act childish.

[Erik Latranyi]

These are great points as was the rest of your post. You pierced the propaganda of the World State Journal.

Sorry, my Japanese friends in business would debate your "truth".

[Erik Latranyi]

The Japanese economy is not designed to improve the lot of the individual...

That is why they created "Employment for Life", right?

Similar complaints in the early 1980's about Japan were heard as we are hearing about China today. We beat Japan in the economic war and we will beat China as well --- providing we do not protect industries that should be allowed to die.