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DON'T SHOP DAY!!! (In protest of the upcoming Bush Amnesty)
Grassroots Effort ^ | American Patrol

Posted on 12/30/2003 10:55:22 AM PST by libertylass

"DON¹T SHOP DAY" IS CATCHING ON!! COMING TO TV!!

A major TV media outlet will do a story on the January 12th -- "Don¹t Shop Day." They have asked for an interview tomorrow!!! SEE http://tinyurl.com/3h5gn

WE NEED TALK RADIO TO DISCUSS THIS ACTION! We need you to call those talk shows!

Remember these talking points:

WHY?

A. Bush political advisors tell him voters have NO PLACE TO GO to protest his amnesty plans since all the Democrat candidates support amnesty. (See: http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030906-120054-6125r.htm)

HOW?

B. Since they think we have NO PLACE TO GO, we should let them know what they are up to by GOING NO PLACE on January 12, 2004,­ the first day of Bush¹s visit with Mexican President Fox in Mexico City. In other words, don¹t shop, don't go to movies, etc. ­ Stay at home!

NO ONE IS HURT--

C. This is not a boycott. There will be no real economic damage to anyone,­ just a demonstration of our ability to protest. It's a win-win situation!

THERE IS NO SPONSOR--

D. While American Patrol is supporting this effort, there is no official sponsor. It is a true grassroots effort.

WHAT AMERICANS ARE SAYING:

Here is just some of the email feedback:

+++++++++++++++++++++ Everyone is really getting the word out. I think it's going to have a big impact. -- Along the same lines I think we should add: Make No Bank Deposits that day. Do not pay any bills (from the 9th-12th), and no online shopping either. -- Sincerely, Shanna in Arizona +++++++++++++++++++++++++ I did a search for historical events for the days between now and Jan.12th when President Bush will meet with President Fox, and the day when hundreds of thousands of Americans will not do ANY shopping. Tomorrow is the anniversary of the Pledge of Allegiance.

Tuesday is the anniversary of the U.S.- Mexico border. Wednesday is the anniversary of the opening of Ellis Island. We will add another day: January 12, 2004 - the American people protested illegal immigration with their pocketbook. Barbara V. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The no shop day on 1/12/04 could stop Bush dead in his amnesty tracks if it catches on, and I very much think it will. My friends and family are spreading the word fast. The media is always writing about the great economic clout of the Latino lobby to make driver's licenses and Latino benefits happen. This could be a demonstration of REAL economic power that could upstage Bush/Fox in Monterrey Mexico on 1/12/04. This Bush-amnesty counter-measure is a brilliant idea. Suddenly we don't have to be observers watching our citizenship, sovereignty, and laws being thrown away. L.B., Riverside, CA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Glenn Spencer mailto:glenn@americanpatrol.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegalimmigration; iloveshopping; immigrantlist; protests; shoptillyoudrop; tancredo2004
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To: nopardons
Hello there! I haven't had the pleasure of saying hi to you online for way too long!

I guess I don't stay up as late as I used to. I brought some sanity to my business approach, so I'm not IM'ng with vendors and customs brokers in Malaysia and Taipei and God knows where at 3 am CST anymore! ;^)

The great neutralizer the Immigration Warriors use against me is living in Minnesota. But I get to the L.A. area five or six times a year, and I was there just last weekend. And don't you know it, driving from my sisters house in Sierra Madre to my brothers house in Mission Viejo I passed through or by Pasadena, Altadena, San Marino, San Gabriel, Monterey Park, Pico Rivera, El Monte, Hacienda Heights, La Mirada, Cerritos, Buena Park, La Habra, Los Alamitos, Santa Ana, Costa Mesa, Yorba Linda, Brea and Rancho Santa Margarita. I've also been to California cities like San Diego, San Francisco, San Jose, Los Angeles, San Bernadino, Salinas, Monterrey, Santa Barbara, Rancho Mirage and Rancho Palos Verdes, Palo Alto, Santa Cruz and Sacramento. I've been to Texas cities named San Antonio, El Paso and San Marcos. Padre Island.

Huh! Hard to believe there's newly arrived Mexicans speaking Spanish those places. I didn't see one Joetown, Hadenufville or Sabertoothburgh however in any visit I've made to the Golden State.

I'm marginalizing the issue ... but that's exactly what I think all these other folks have done for oh ... about three years running on this forum.

If there is going to be a concerted effort to weild this issue as an anti-Bush bludgeon over the next eleven months, I wanted to get a pre-emptive statment on the record first. Not that it'll matter to some of these people. It's the rationalization for their every life challenge, setback and failure. There's an ugly underpinning to this debate, and it's really not even that deep below the surface.

Regards!

581 posted on 12/30/2003 11:57:22 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Naspino
Just two questions: 1) What is wrong with Bush's plan for amnesty? 2) What is the alternative solution. We always say the Democrats like to decry Bush's plans with no alternative because they have no message. This has no message either. Why should I protest something I don't understand.

it loosens the meaning of citizenship and guest worker to meaninglessness.

Current migrants who apply legaly get short circuited and screwed. They never profit from amnesty and they actualy get to be set behind in paper work and priority.

It promotes the rewarding of criminals, terrorists and trespassers onto this country.... whose own country of origin would never forgive us that way....

It would support the human/slave trade that goes alongside the drug trade, all of which tend to support narcoterrorists and others who blackmail the families of migrants in home country to pay for passage.

It is an amnesty for an illegal trade and the criminals in Mexico making the money and getting the allegations from migrants that the immigration service we provide them should be rewarded.

It's a general support of a form of riot against our laws and a support of black market labor inside the US itself.

It's also an amnesty that Americans are denied when they have to pay taxes at the end of the year to finance the whole deal: why not amnesty US tax payers instead, while we are at it?

It generaly would support mexicans coming to the US for free medical care and it would support Mulsim terrorists posing as students in US universities but who have activities contrary to their promises on their student visas.

582 posted on 12/30/2003 11:57:46 PM PST by JudgemAll
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To: Joe Hadenuf
"Hello? Anyone home?"

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Angst

583 posted on 12/30/2003 11:58:27 PM PST by sweetliberty (Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.)
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To: JudgemAll
It's also an amnesty that Americans are denied when they have to pay taxes at the end of the year to finance the whole deal: why not amnesty US tax payers instead, while we are at it?

WE HAVE INDEED PAID OUR TAXES TO ENFORCE OUR BORDERS. RECALL THE MONEYS FROM THE INS IF AMNESTY IS THE WAY.

584 posted on 12/30/2003 11:59:40 PM PST by JudgemAll
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To: Cultural Jihad
Anyhow would you think it's right or wrong for a Dutchman or Swede to come here and obtain stolen identification papers or break whatever laws they didn't find convenient? If they had a bunch of white babies but couldn't support them here because they couldn't learn English for one, should they be allowed to stay or should they go back?
585 posted on 12/30/2003 11:59:41 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Jorge
You're a little late with that clever little response. It's been used ad infinitum.
586 posted on 12/30/2003 11:59:52 PM PST by libertylass
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To: Jorge

The stores will be just as crowded on the 12th as they will the day before and the day after. This leftist-inspired scheme against Big Evil Business is a small puff of hot air for the knuckle-draggers to wallow in.

587 posted on 12/31/2003 12:00:24 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
If you dislike seeing demographic changes in the nation then fight against the moral-liberalism which is eroding our liberties and rights, not against people who seek a better life for themselves and their families.

Whoa! Powerful stuff.
Our real brothers are those who share our values and moral convictions.

I'm sick of this immigrant boogie-man fear mongering.

588 posted on 12/31/2003 12:02:37 AM PST by Jorge
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To: Jorge
Are we going to have police busting down 12 million doors, locking them all up and paying their airfare out of the country?

Of course not, and you know this, you're just playing the police state card, hoping no one will notice.

The Bush plan makes more sense.

The Bush plan will encourage more Illegal Aliens, because it will reward their Illegal behavior.

If you want more Illegals, go with the Bush plan.


589 posted on 12/31/2003 12:04:13 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: ArneFufkin
Viva Tancredo*! Viva Tancredo! LOL

*BTW, who the hell let the Italians into America? Check his papers.

There's no need to. Tancredo is a proud and patriotic native-born American

590 posted on 12/31/2003 12:04:29 AM PST by usadave
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To: libertylass
DON¹T SHOP...

Sorry. No can do. "I shop, therefore I am!" :)

591 posted on 12/31/2003 12:04:33 AM PST by veronica (Monterey County Film Commission Screenwriting Contest /ATTN:FR writers/FReepmail me)
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To: Cultural Jihad
There is no shortage of abortion clinics along the border --- and there is no shortage of 12 year old immigrant girls having babies on the taxpayer dime --- they don't abort their welfare check. I don't think you can call Mexico a moral society if you've even been there and taken a good look around. Ever see the 12 year old girls with their babies sitting on the street corners begging? It's a very sexual permissive culture --- at least the portion of it moving in in great numbers --- look at the high schools along the border.
592 posted on 12/31/2003 12:04:41 AM PST by FITZ
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To: JudgemAll
Good post. Reformat it as a letter and send it to our President. Just to be safe, cut out the all the bigger words and complex sentences.
593 posted on 12/31/2003 12:05:07 AM PST by dagnabbit (Amnesty is Treason.)
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To: ArneFufkin
And don't you know it, driving from my sisters house in Sierra Madre to my brothers house in Mission Viejo I passed through or by Pasadena, Altadena, San Marino, San Gabriel, Monterey Park, Pico Rivera, El Monte, Hacienda Heights, La Mirada, Cerritos, Buena Park, La Habra, Los Alamitos, Santa Ana, Costa Mesa, Yorba Linda, Brea and Rancho Santa Margarita. .

Huh?

Lord, better stay put in Minnesota pal, as you sure the hell took a strange, backassward route to get to Mission Viejo. You obviously don't know your way around So, Cal.

What a funny post. Your a typical lost tourist....

594 posted on 12/31/2003 12:05:22 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

English is you're second language, eh? Personally, I am fed up with people who don't know English! Waaaah! Make 'em all go away! Waaaah!

595 posted on 12/31/2003 12:08:06 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: ArneFufkin
HMMMM....Yes, those cities sounds like Spanish from SPAIN to me!!!! Since Spain owned this land for a couple of hundred years. I think Mexico tried to hang onto it for about 25 years! Most of these cities sprung up after Mexico sold it to us for 5 mil. No doubt, SPAIN and its language had a huge impact here.

Let's see there is Torrance, Hawthorne, Lennox, Inglewood, Burbank, Long Beach, Orange County, Lakewood, and on and on.
596 posted on 12/31/2003 12:08:33 AM PST by libertylass
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To: Joe Hadenuf
210 to 605 to 5 dude. They're all within 5 mile radius along that route. Give or take. Spanish sounding towns. Oh, and my bro wants you to quit looking at his wife with your telescope.
597 posted on 12/31/2003 12:11:29 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Naspino
If your argument is legality -- then it seems amnesty solves it by satisfying the legal requirement. Anything else?

YOu are supporting government anarchy through PC concocted alibis.

Repeat after me:

I will support and encourage those who work legaly and report to me honestly their good works. I will not encourage and be friends with those who cheat, who deal with drugs or human trade or shady work trade deals.

Sadly this world is upside down:

1. The tax payer must feel bad because he does not like an amnesty that disregards representation of the taxpayers... while we reward with guiltlessness people who have no respect for our laws, who have none of us as reference as Americans, but only themselves and their needs.
2. we do not help people who are here to improve themselves so that they can do something productive, we help people who cheat or who think it is more fun to get together to do drugs and illegal trades instead of following the law and helping people be successful.
3. We are calling a problem of legality what is illegal and violates our contracts with the government.
4. We are rewarding people who prevent others from working and paying taxes, while we are punishing the doers and those honoring their debts to government.
5. We are suppporting export taxes as opposed to import taxes since we are not charging migrants for the import of their services... thus we are destroying our economy at the benefit of foreign nations.
6. We generaly are callous because we cannot face the need for fairness. We are cowards.

598 posted on 12/31/2003 12:12:28 AM PST by JudgemAll
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To: ArneFufkin
Check your map again Fufkin. You got it all screwed up.
599 posted on 12/31/2003 12:12:33 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: ArneFufkin
You don't travel enough. New Mexico's Colonias: Growing Shame on the Border

The hazards of unplanned growth are clear in any of New Mexico's growing number of colonias, as are the frustrations of residents attempting to obtain government assistance. They've all been here, people from the county, from Santa Fe, from Channel 4 and Channel 9, but nothing ever happens, said a resident of Las Palmeras at a recent organizing meeting.

Las Palmeras is the latest community to be added to Dona Ana County's list of recognized colonias. It has no paved roads, no street lights, no public water or sanitation services, and no civic associations or community organizations to lobby on behalf of its residents. The only way into the community for the approximately 50 families living there is a private road along an irrigation ditch which floods when farmers are irrigating. At those times, residents must park on the other side of the road and wade across. Emergency vehicles would be unable to get in either. Fortunately no one has needed an ambulance while the road has been flooded.

Las Palmeras is unlikely to get its problems addressed anytime soon. The original subdivision of Las Palmeras was never submitted for approval by the county, and contained no dedicated easement for a road. The county road department will not consider building a road until the irrigation district repairs the flooding ditch. Determining who should pay for the road is another sticking point, as the original developer of Las Palmeras has left the area. And as the most recent addition to the county's roster of colonias, Las Palmeras is at the end of a long waiting line of communities in need of basic infrastructure in the county.

Colonias like Las Palmeras are a market response to a number of economic and political changes in the border region which have resulted in an acute shortage of housing and building lots for low-income working families. The region has experienced a steady growth in jobs and population for over a decade in both the farming and industrial sectors. Dona Ana County's population grew 40 percent from 96,340 in 1980 to 135,510 in 1990, and is predicted to reach 226,000 by the year 2010.

600 posted on 12/31/2003 12:13:37 AM PST by FITZ
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