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For 2004, Bush Has Strength in the White Male Numbers
LA Times ^ | Dec. 28, 2003 | Ronald Brownstein

Posted on 12/27/2003 10:21:00 PM PST by FairOpinion

WASHINGTON — President Bush's overwhelming strength among white men looms as a central obstacle between Democrats and the White House as 2004 approaches.

In an election season heavily shaped by terrorism and national security, several recent polls suggest Bush could dominate white male voters as thoroughly as Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush did during their three successive presidential victories in the 1980s.

White men compose just under 40% of the electorate, with white women just over 40%, and minorities composing the rest.

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TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 2004; diversity; malevote; multiculturalism
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To: ProudIndependent
If the cost to provide education and health care to a family of 5 costs only $5,000 a year then the family would have to pay $5,000 in sales tax to make up for the cost.

Which is a real bargain compared to the cost to society of 5 uneducated and unhealthy dependents.

201 posted on 12/28/2003 10:54:14 PM PST by Jorge
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To: FairOpinion
REAL MEN VOTE REPUBLICAN! Only a limpwhristed, candy@ss wuss, would vote for a Liberal.. sheeesh, who doesn't know that.. :)
202 posted on 12/28/2003 10:55:30 PM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: Jorge
We don't owe the children of illegal aliens any education at all. Their home countries owe them an education.

For the record, it costs $7,000 per year per child for a public screwal education.

We don't have the money to be able to educate another country's children.

Send them home.

203 posted on 12/28/2003 11:00:56 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: carlo3b
Evidently, you don't recognize a Liberal when they're wearing a Republican suit.
204 posted on 12/28/2003 11:03:37 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: 4Freedom
Evidently, you don't recognize a Liberal when they're wearing a Republican suit.

Of course I do, I also understand that you cannot get anything done if you have no position of real power. In order to win and accomplish anything at all you must get elected.. Screaming from the outside only makes a lot of noise and gives everyone a headache.. :)

205 posted on 12/28/2003 11:09:35 PM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: 4Freedom; nopardons; onyx; FairOpinion
The RINO solution to illegal immigration is always another amnesty

Ronald Reagan, RINO extraordinaire.
206 posted on 12/28/2003 11:17:06 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: 4Freedom
Changes In Immigration Numbers
Immigration changes since 1970 have been the overwhelming reason for the U.S. population explosion, thus Americans suffer under the worsening:

urban sprawl
traffic congestion
overcrowded schools
loss of natural habitat
congested outdoor recreation
destruction of prime farm land

207 posted on 12/28/2003 11:23:41 PM PST by chicagolady (Jesus, Be my Magnificent Obsession)
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To: gatorbait
Exactly so !

Now, since Ronald Reagan is a " RINO ", one really has to wonder just WHO is CONSERVATIVE enough, for these tinfoiled PURISTS. LOL

208 posted on 12/28/2003 11:24:31 PM PST by nopardons
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To: carlo3b
Right, as usual, Carlo. :-)

Please pass the earplugs.

209 posted on 12/28/2003 11:27:01 PM PST by nopardons
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To: chicagolady
Immigrants, legal or not, are buying up farms and building houses on that land ?

Chicago and New York City has MORE " urban sprawl ", because of immigration, since 1970 ? Not that I know about. Chicago's " sprawl ", since 1970, has been upwardly mobile and empyt-nester fed. So has New York's been. The gentrification of both Chicago and all five boroughs of N.Y.C.,still has most immigrants, legal and otherwise,living in slums, just as they did in the early part of the 20th century and before.

No, actually, I take that last bit away. Slums were built and expanded upon, in Manhattan, in the mid to late parts of the 19th century, so, yes, immigrants did, indeed, add to Manhattan's " urban sprawl "; just NOT since 1970!

210 posted on 12/28/2003 11:37:47 PM PST by nopardons
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To: gatorbait; nopardons
What's on the menu ETOM?

Who's on the burial list?
211 posted on 12/28/2003 11:44:24 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: chicagolady
Oh he will have support of all the Illegal Immigrats he plans on giving special Priviledges too, also.

I still haven't made up my mind about November 2. Bowling is always fun, but then again, the den needs repainting. Decisions, decisions.

212 posted on 12/28/2003 11:56:11 PM PST by dagnabbit (Amnesty is Treason)
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To: onyx
Have slain the alotted number of dragons and am off to bed. Sorry we've only caught up now, ETOM.

I would have added some more, but tomorrow is an early riser for me. :-(

Good night, dear ETOM.

213 posted on 12/28/2003 11:56:48 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Mee too -- off to bed. Sleep well dear ETOM. I am tired.
214 posted on 12/28/2003 11:58:41 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: chicagolady
I'm thinking these white males mostly hate illegal immigration and sieve borders
215 posted on 12/29/2003 3:27:01 AM PST by JustPiper (Bush+Ridge=TagTeam for Amnesty! Write-In Tom Tancredo in March!!!)
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To: onyx
Good deal. I get so tired of hearing about the "Catholic vote" going to democrats --- not true nowadays. I think you know the feeling. :)

I sure do! When the ever-so-enlightened media talk about the Catholic vote, they usually mean non-practicing Catholics-in-name-only. Similarly, the so-called Jewish vote is often comprised of those who never set foot in a synagogue. People who actually share the values of their respective religions are left out of the count. Hopefully not for long (but shh...don't tell the left that religious people vote too!).

216 posted on 12/29/2003 8:09:56 AM PST by Tabi Katz
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To: 4Freedom
Yes, I have read Sabertooth's interesting proposal, and I like it.
217 posted on 12/29/2003 9:21:08 AM PST by King Prout (oh, finding your "core values" in the latest poll, are you, Mr. Dean?)
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To: 4Freedom
Jorge was referring to true American citizens who are dyed-in-the-wool miscreants and slackers. Them, we cannot deport. That is the difference between those counterexamples he likes to cite and the illegal aliens with which he compares them.
218 posted on 12/29/2003 9:23:35 AM PST by King Prout (oh, finding your "core values" in the latest poll, are you, Mr. Dean?)
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To: Jorge
Your claim was that the sales taxes that an illegal pays offsets the income taxes he does not plus the social welfare he illegally sucks up.
It has been demonstrated, even in your own posts, that such illegals do not make enough legitimate money to be able to buy significant quantities of taxable items.
Consequently, the math does not add up to a total which supports your contention. Quite the opposite.
Now, try to stick with facts and figures this time, and address the points raised.
219 posted on 12/29/2003 9:27:16 AM PST by King Prout (oh, finding your "core values" in the latest poll, are you, Mr. Dean?)
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To: South40
Howard Dean will win DC as well
220 posted on 12/29/2003 9:33:47 AM PST by bobjam
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