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JOE: 'BAD' REPORT WAS A ROE BLOW (one-trick pony up to his old tricks, again)
NY POST ^ | December 27, 2003 | Associated Press

Posted on 12/27/2003 5:09:56 AM PST by Liz

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:18:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Democratic presidential candidate Joe Lieberman faced questions about his position on abortion yesterday after a New Hampshire newspaper indicated he thinks the historic Roe vs. Wade decision needs to be re-examined because of medical advances.

Lieberman said The Union-Leader of Manchester "misreported that he thinks the Roe vs. Wade case should be revisited."

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TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; lieberman; roevwade
Be warned, Joe LIEberman is up to his old tricks again on abortion. When LIEb was trying to get into the Senate, he used abortion as a stepping stone giving conservative voters assurances he was pro-life.

After LIEb got in he voted pro-abortion every single time, including six separate votes in support of partial birth abortion (infanticide).

This one-trick pony is up to his old tricks---b/c he knows conservative votes are where the action is.

1 posted on 12/27/2003 5:09:57 AM PST by Liz
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To: raybbr
Liar LIEberman ping
2 posted on 12/27/2003 5:10:45 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
Another case of "I didn't say what I said".
3 posted on 12/27/2003 5:15:41 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: billorites
A de-clarification (obscurification?) of the statements discussed in the article you posted yesterday.
4 posted on 12/27/2003 5:18:03 AM PST by Tax-chick (Some people say that Life is the thing, but I prefer reading.)
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To: Liz
Joe Lieberman lying??? Say it ain't so, Joe! I'm shocked! Shocked!
5 posted on 12/27/2003 5:19:22 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds
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To: Liz
Joe Lieberman is pro-abortion. Ask him, he'll tell you. Only paranoiac liberals (or Lieberman's political opponents) could ever think otherwise.
6 posted on 12/27/2003 5:23:18 AM PST by Batrachian
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To: Tax-chick
Someone got Joe on the telephone and read him the riot act.

Not being endowed with an excess amount of backbone, he went forth and "clarified" his comments.

7 posted on 12/27/2003 5:26:02 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites
Just the sort of determined, principled leadership we need in the next four years, huh?
8 posted on 12/27/2003 5:28:38 AM PST by Tax-chick (Some people say that Life is the thing, but I prefer reading.)
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To: Liz
Lying and talking ou of both sides of one's mouth comes second nature to politicians

In Joe's case it is also 3rd AND 4th nature
9 posted on 12/27/2003 5:33:43 AM PST by uncbob
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To: uncbob; billorites; Tax-chick; Batrachian; Peach; ReleaseTheHounds
This post is for conservatives you might know who may be considering (gag) voting for LIEberman. You should be aware that LIEberman is resurrecting the "astute strategy" outlined below to get the all-important conservative support that got him into the Senate.
(a staunch pro-abortion candidate makes a pro-life pledge)
Washington Times | 9/11/00 | George Archibald

September 11, 2000

Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman is a staunch supporter of abortion rights now, and even voted (at six separate times) against a ban on partial-birth abortion, but Catholic leaders in Connecticut remember another Joe Lieberman.

He called on the state's archbishop with a pro-life pledge 12 years ago, when he was first a candidate for the U.S. Senate, and even told pro-life leaders he would have voted to confirm Judge Robert Bork for the U.S. Supreme Court.

Mr. Lieberman met with Archbishop John F. Whealon of Hartford to seek Catholic votes in the final stretch of his 1988 Democratic bid to oust 18-year Sen. Lowell P. Weicker Jr., a Republican who supported abortion rights, from the U.S. Senate.

"Joe was very liberal, like Weicker, but we had a poll on abortion that showed which way the wind was blowing," says Daniel Cosgrove, then the Democratic town chairman in Branford, Mr. Lieberman's hometown. The poll showed anti-abortion sentiment outweighed pro-choice views in urban areas throughout Connecticut. "In the Waterbury area, it was more than any, 12,000 [more] against," Mr. Cosgrove says.

Records of a meeting between Mr. Lieberman and top officials of the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC) two months after the 1988 election quote Mr. Lieberman as saying he "thinks there are too many abortions," and promisinghe would not "apply a litmus test" against pro-life judicial nominees.

Archbishop Whealon has since died, but his former secretary, Father Thomas Berry, says he remembers the 1988 meeting where Mr. Lieberman "expressed himself as coming from a tradition in support of life, not in favor of abortion on demand."

"He expressed himself against abortion, all suicide, and euthanasia. His position on that definitely was well received by the archbishop and priests," Father Berry says.

A spokesman for Mr. Lieberman says Mr. Cosgrove's memory of the meeting with the archbishop "is not accurate," and says Mr. Lieberman has been consistently pro-choice. Mr. Cosgrove says he and state Sen. Regina Smith, who conducted the pro-life poll for the archdiocese, arranged for

Mr. Lieberman, then the state attorney general, to meet with the Catholic prelate before the election to lay out his support for Catholic pro-life positions, which Mr. Weicker had actively opposed.

The strategy worked, Mr. Cosgrove says. Mr. Lieberman convinced the archbishop he favored pro-life positions and would vote differently than Mr. Weicker, thus winning Catholic support that pushed him to a narrow 10,000-vote victory — the only Democratic Senate upset of that year.

With Republican Vice President George Bush outpolling Democrat Michael S. Dukakis by almost 100,000 votes in Connecticut's presidential balloting that year, Mr. Lieberman's strategic appeal for pro-life votes countered the

Republican tide that otherwise might have benefited Mr. Weicker, Mr. Cosgrove says. Mr. Lieberman's winning margin was less than 1 percent of 1.4 million votes. Mr. Lieberman, an orthodox Jew, has defended his record, saying Jewish law is so deeply divided on the issue of abortion that even among orthodox Jews it may be construed as "a personal matter." The senator's spokesman, Dan Gerstein, insists there was no meeting between Mr. Lieberman and the archbishop before the 1988 election. "No one on staff at the time can remember a meeting with Archbishop Whealon during the campaign.

He had a private meeting with the archbishop after the election," the spokesman said. "Mr. Cosgrove's recollection of what was said at the meeting also is not accurate," Mr. Gerstein said. Mr. Lieberman "never said he would limit a woman's right to choose, that he would vote to ban abortion or to overturn Roe v. Wade."

The Supreme Court, in that 1973 case, held that a woman had a constitutional right to an abortion in certain circumstances. Mr. Lieberman has voted consistently pro-choice, both as a Connecticut state senator and U.S. senator, since his first elective office in 1970, Mr. Gerstein said.

Father Berry, now assigned to St. Mary's Parish in Newington, Conn., says Mr. Lieberman presented himself as a clear pro-life alternative, saying, "He was not an abortion activist as Senator Weicker was . . . and said his approach would be different."

In fact, Mr. Lieberman's pro-life assurances were so convincing that Archbishop Whealon arranged for the Democratic candidate to meet with Catholic priests throughout the state shortly before the November 1988 balloting. Mr. Lieberman's expressed pro-life views in those meetings, Father Berry said. "That probably was not insignificant" in the November 1988 election outcome, he said.

Two months after the election, Mr. Lieberman and key staff aides again met with pro-life leaders in Washington and assured them he was an ally, says Douglas Johnson, legislative director of the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC).

Mr. Lieberman said he would have voted to confirm Judge Bork to the Supreme Court had he been a member of the Senate during the confirmation hearings, according to written minutes of the meeting with Dr. Jack C. Willke, then the NRLC head, and Regina Smith, Connecticut's representative to the group.

Judge Bork, who was eventually denied confirmation, testified in Senate hearings that he would have voted to overturn Roe v. Wade. Mr. Lieberman "would have voted for Bork, under whom he studied" at Yale University law school, according to the meeting notes taken by Mr. Johnson.

The notes quoted Mr. Lieberman as saying: "I'm not going to vote against a judicial nominee just because he's pro-life. I'm not going to apply a litmus test."

Mr. Lieberman acknowledged there was disagreement among his own new Senate staff on the abortion issue, the notes show: "He thinks there are too many abortions, but many disagree, women will have them anyway. He is unsettled, ambivilent [sic]. Some staff on both sides. Always access to him or top staff, will be heard respectfully. Regina is great. Continue dialog." ####

10 posted on 12/27/2003 5:39:12 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
Liz: I voted for Lieberman in that Senate election for many of the reasons cited in this article... That and the fact that Lowell Weicker was a closet communist (slight exaggeration), one of the original RINOs and a horrible human being. This was the only time in my life I voted for a Democrat for a national office -- turns out I was voting for a liar or major proportions. When he gave Slick the "pass" in his Senate speech, I knew what a low-life loser he was... When he changed all his views to be Al's running mate, that was just confirmation of every awful thing I always thought of LIEberman.
11 posted on 12/27/2003 5:57:34 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
Joe (I'll-say-anything-to-win) LIEberman cannot be trusted. Ever. Abortion separates the men from the boys. Joe lied like a pimple-faced adolescent who fools the folks into thinking he's studying at the library when he's out smoking weed with the rest of the nerds.

LIEberman deceived voters and got elected on the backs of the innocent unborn. Not exactly something that inspires confidence in a candidate.

LIEberman is nothing more than a conman--he told pro-lifers exactly what he knew they wanted to hear b/c that's what the polls said. He is Clintonesque, so transcendently evil, capable of saying anything he thinks voters want to hear.

LIEberman as president? I wouldn't trust this fool to walk my dog.

12 posted on 12/27/2003 6:37:07 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
Thanks Liz,
13 posted on 12/27/2003 7:31:39 AM PST by raybbr
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To: raybbr
Anytime, Ray. Just ping.
14 posted on 12/27/2003 8:00:48 AM PST by Liz
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