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To: quidnunc
Where did I ever specify that the defense of this country should be limited to responding to an attack?? My point was simply that our fighting forces should ONLY be used against bad guys who are a threat to US! Not to some idiot neighboring tribe in the Congo. But US! Those who serve shouldn't put their lives on the line to fulfill someone's fantasy about cleansing the earth of evil.
16 posted on 12/17/2003 2:17:48 PM PST by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: KantianBurke
My point was simply that our fighting forces should ONLY be used against bad guys who are a threat to US!

How quickly some have forgotten the most rudimentary precepts of the Reagan Doctrine.

24 posted on 12/17/2003 4:49:10 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The Clintons have damaged our country. They have done it together, in unison." -- Peggy Noonan)
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To: KantianBurke
As you've noticed, to defend expansion of government by positing ad hominem is a neocon's mindset. But then, neocons don't care about anything but power and 'what's right'--logic doesn't come into their thinking. They are the conservative movement's just desserts for allowing state schools, people who understand power but not why or when it should be used, only that it should be.

It's all 'isolationism' and 'paleocon' from the neos when it comes to Iraq, but I don't hear a single one of them crying for us to invade Tibet or China or Congo or Zimbabwe. There are certainly evils there to deal with. The fact is that there is no national foreign policy more important than the PROTECTION of the United States. That's why WMD was the party line, and why people bought into Iraq. Certainly, I'm glad Saddam is gone, and I don't care that they haven't found WMDs, because I believe Bush would not have gone in without really believing WMDs were there. But there are far too many stupid neocons who want to say 'preventing evil' is now our national foreign policy--and it isn't. It better not be. I don't know about you, but I don't want the U.S. military cleaning out Algeria or Cambodia. I don't care about any other country unless they're threats to our country's security, and there are a lot more people like me than there are neocons, no matter how many stupid polls the neocons push.

Thank you for being an occasional voice of reason. I'm glad you're still here. Haven't seen much of you recently.
31 posted on 12/17/2003 6:25:38 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (When laws are regularly flouted, respect of the law and law enforcement diminishes correspondingly.)
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