How Profiling Saved My Life

Front Page Magazine ^ | 16 December 2003 | Nicholas Stix

[ladyinred]

It is a slippery slope, on that we agree.

[sandydipper]

Surely a must read. I know some professionl blacks.

[mrustow]

Its ironic that as the clamor against the profiling of some, regardless of the logical basis for it, increases, so does the clamor for 'hate crime' laws against others.

Many of those clamoring for both are one & the same.

Excellent point! (I wish the author had come up with it; it would have strengthened the article.)

[mrustow]

Another stinker from Stix.

Sour grapes! You probably didn't even bother reading it!

[mrustow]

Or is it that you just don't like looking at groups of dusky kids hanging out on the street?

Sorry, but that won't wash in the United States of America.

There you go, race-baiting again. Sorry, but that won't wash in the United States of America.

[mrustow]

Why were the Founding Fathers all hot and bothered about "the right of the people peaceably to assemble"? Because the government was into gigging people for being part of an ANTI-GOVERNMENT crowd, not for being part of a loitering crowd. The settlement discussed above clearly shows that the letter of the Constitution was used. This is wrong, but don't expect our legal masters to ever admit such.

Thank you for a welcome blast of common sense!

[general_re]

I read it a couple of days ago - you figure it's improving with age? I don't.

[inquest]

Just curious if either of you think there are any other situations where the police may exercise powers that don't involve enforcing any actual laws.

[mrustow]

I don't know if this goes under the heading of powers, but I know of cops who have committed acts of kindness on the job that may have been prohibited by their job rules.

[inquest]

I don't know if this goes under the heading of powers....

Allow me to be more specific with my language. By "powers", I'm referring to things that cops are allowed to do to people by virtue of the fact that they're cops, and which ordinary citizens normally are not allowed to do to other citizens.

[AbsoluteJustice]

"Just curious if either of you think there are any other situations where the police may exercise powers that don't involve enforcing any actual laws"

I think there is a law somewhere in that State concerning curfews during the week, to include, schoolnights. Yes that is "the law". If a group of "CHILDREN" are standing on a corner past curfew doing apparently nothing constructive by all means the cops have every right in the world to inquire as to why 1) They are out past a city Curfew an 2) What is it that you are doing here.

Remember "CHILDREN" are not adults until out of the nest at the age of 21. They are not afforded ALL rights under ANY constitution. Case in point can they vote?

These are children we are talking about here and like I said before for anyone to question this common sense approach apparently do not have children for if you did you would WANT the cops to ask your kid what they are doing on a corner at 10PM with other CHILDREN on a schoolnight. I will tell you why because those said children have POS parents who don't give a damn what their child is doing.

[inquest]

The article, from what I could see, mentioned nothing about a curfew. If indeed it is the law, then I withdraw my question. But I don't think it's the law everywhere. If it was the law in NYC in the case mentioned in the article, then the case would probably have been much simpler than what the article described.

If it's not the law, then I don't see how the police can justifiably take any kind of action against anyone, regardless of how desirable that may be.

[AbsoluteJustice]

The very first line said 9 PM on a schoolnight. I will look into this but most cities do have curfew laws for those under the age of 18. I'll get back with you.