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He will face justice on Earth and in heaven, says acid bath victim
The Times (UK) ^ | 12/16/03 | James Hider

Posted on 12/15/2003 7:40:33 PM PST by saquin

NOT many people survived Saddam Hussein’s acid baths in the notorious torture cells of the Palace of the End. Fewer yet will have the chance to confront the brutal dictator with their scarred flesh. For Abdulwahad al-Obeidi, however, just such a moment of reckoning is looming after three decades of pain.

Mr Al-Obeidi, a polite and gentle man of 63, has been asked by the Iraqi Governing Council and the ministry of human rights to join a group of 25 victims of Saddam’s torture cells to visit the jailed tyrant and confront him with the physical evidence of his brutal regime.

That evidence is a vast scar that covers his back, his arms and sides, indelible evidence of what once went on in Saddam’s name in Iraq’s packed prisons. Mr Al-Obeidi survived being dipped in an acid pool, an experience that was expected to lead to a cruel, lingering death. Only by a miracle did he survive.

“I want to say to Saddam, ‘You and your regime denied you had such torture while the Iraqi people have the evidence that political prisoners were tortured’.” Mr Al Obeidi told The Times at his home in Baghdad yesterday.

When Mr Al-Obeidi was a naval captain in the early 1970s, he insisted on reserving a room aboard his ship for daily prayers at a time when Saddam’s secular Baath party was cracking down on religious groups.

Accused of organising an Islamic resistance party, he was jailed in a Baghdad prison know as the Palace of the End where every week he was forced to watch as Saddam’s chief torturer, Nadhim Kazzar, selected one prisoner, insulted him and then emptied a pistol magazine into him.

“He would say, ‘This was his fate, and this too will be your destiny,’ Mr Al-Obeidi said.

Jailed in 1971, three years after Saddam’s Baath Party seized power, he was incarcerated and tortured for two years. He endured regular beatings, when his guards would hang him upside down and whip him with electrical cables. Electric shocks were another frequent torture.

His children were banned from taking any job in the public sector, while his son Ahmed was himself detained on trumped-up charges of dodging military duty and tortured. He still suffers from depression, thirty years later. Then, in 1973, a group of guards took him to the “death room”, where prisoners were dispatched in a gruesome manner, dropped into a pool of acid. The men held Mr alObeidi’s arms and legs and, for a second, dipped his back into the bath. “It was unspeakable, you can’t imagine the pain. I felt at that moment, and it may have been just seconds, that the heat inside my body was 1,000 degrees,” he said in a calm voice born of 30 years of suffering.

Expecting him to die — the skin was burned off his back, exposing the vertebrae in places — Mr Al-Obeidi’s tormentors released him from prison. Somehow he managed to hang on long enough for his family to sneak him out of the country to England, where he spent six months receiving treatment at London’s Westminster Hospital.

For fear of his story leaking out, he told the doctors he was suffering from cancer, although he suspects they never believed him. They treated him anyway, discreetly avoiding any probing questions. When he had recovered, he returned to his family in Iraq, where he now works as a muezzin, calling the faithful to prayer at his local mosque. Now, he wants justice to take its course, on Earth and in heaven.

“We believe in justice. The ultimate penalty will be God’s justice,” said Mr Al-Obeidi, who is ready to testify against Saddam when he eventually stands trial.

He did not, however, express an opinion on whether the former dictator should be executed. “I believe in justice, I don’t want any specific thing to happen to him,” he said. As a Muslim, he recalled the Koranic proverb, “With oppression comes bad luck for the oppressor.”

Mr Al-Obeidi is convinced that Saddam is already suffering divine retribution, and he cites the cramped and undignified hole in which he was forced to live when US soldiers arrested him on Saturday evening.

“He must have had time to reflect on what he did and how he put so many people in such cells for no reason, and to think about both the sons who were so dear to him.” Uday and Qusay Hussein were killed in a gunfight with American forces in July.

Mr Al-Obeidi’s daughter thinks such a fate would be too good for Saddam.

“When he was tormenting us we longed to die, it would be a mercy. I think he should be put in a cage in the zoo and every Iraqi should be able to punish him however he sees fit,” she said.


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KEYWORDS: heartbreaking; iraq; iraqijustice; saddam; torture
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1 posted on 12/15/2003 7:40:34 PM PST by saquin
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To: saquin
Mr Al-Obeidi, a polite and gentle man of 63, has been asked by the Iraqi Governing Council and the ministry of human rights to join a group of 25 victims of Saddam’s torture cells to visit the jailed tyrant and confront him with the physical evidence of his brutal regime.

While they are there, they should be allowed to put one of Saddam's legs through one of plastic shredders Uday and Qusay loved so much.

He won't be needing both of them anyway.

2 posted on 12/15/2003 7:46:43 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Maybe he can be interviewed by the perky Katie on the Today show.

I'm sure the always perkey Katie will ask him why he would make up such a lie about the noble Saddam.
3 posted on 12/15/2003 7:50:06 PM PST by Texas Deer Hunter (Aim small, miss small....)
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To: saquin
On one of the Iraqi blogs there is a rather lengthy list of Saddam's favorite ways of torturing and killing people. Some of them will literally turn your stomach. You have to wonder what kind of man could even come up with some of the cruel, painful things he did to people.
4 posted on 12/15/2003 7:55:24 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: saquin
And some say that all is well because no weapons of mass destruction were found. If only for this man, I am grateful tha Saddahm was found. The unfortunate thing is that Saddahm will never accept responsibility or admit guilt.
5 posted on 12/15/2003 8:00:25 PM PST by Ruth A.
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To: saquin
I actually think the beast should be dispatched in a public hanging. Where the whole world watched. Maybe he should summons up some grit and die in a dignified manner, good for the Iraqi's, or grovel all the way, also good for the Iraqi's. He has nothing comming from the people of Iraq, except his demise. The rest of the world and it's leaders can go suck eggs.
6 posted on 12/15/2003 8:03:00 PM PST by wingnuts'nbolts
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"Al-Obeidi...has been asked...to join a group of 25 victims of Saddam’s torture cells to visit the jailed tyrant and confront him with the physical evidence of his brutal regime."

They should confront American "Liberals" and Democrats and European leftists, who, if they had had their way, would have prevented President Bush from liberating Iraq and, through their foolishness, had they had their way, would have left the American people vulnerable to such monsters as Saddam.

7 posted on 12/15/2003 8:04:59 PM PST by Savage Beast (The more truth threatens delusions, the more the resistance intensifies.)
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To: saquin
He will face justice on Earth and in heaven,

Didn't that person mean to say "on Earth and in hell"?

8 posted on 12/15/2003 8:08:09 PM PST by Terriergal (Psalm 11: 3 "When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?")
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The arab version of Vlad the Impaler will never be fully punished for his terrorism...
This monster would have to die a million deaths and still wouldnt be payment enough for the sum of suffering he has wrought upon his own people
9 posted on 12/15/2003 8:09:16 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: wingnuts'nbolts
I actually think the beast should be dispatched in a public hanging. Where the whole world watched. Maybe he should summons up some grit and die in a dignified manner, good for the Iraqi's, or grovel all the way, also good for the Iraqi's. He has nothing comming from the people of Iraq, except his demise. The rest of the world and it's leaders can go suck eggs.

I wonder what would happen if the U.S. threatened to hand him over to the Iraqis? If he'd beg for us to keep him instead.

10 posted on 12/15/2003 8:09:31 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: Savage Beast
If the trial of Saddam is done correctly and broadcast on tv it will make the reelection of W a lock.
11 posted on 12/15/2003 8:10:07 PM PST by xp38
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To: saquin
Justice!!!!!!
12 posted on 12/15/2003 8:11:28 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: saquin
In order to end all ongoing Iraqi Baathist resistance, may I be the first to propose that like the defeated Gallic King Vercingetorix, Saddam Hussein should be stripped naked, taken to his captors' capital in a cage, tormented for years, and then publically executed in a arena.
13 posted on 12/15/2003 8:18:51 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Too fast.

Achilles dragged Hector three times around Troy.

Old cowboy movies had bad guys drug behind horses, a little faster than bad guys could run, for a long time.

Drag him through Kuwait, north through Iraq, finally into the Kurd regions, behind a horse, with an Iraq military escort and a doctor--to keep him from being killed prematurely by angry mobs or road-rash. Then let the Kurds play that game on horseback--the one where they play keepaway with a calf-carcass--with what's left of Saddam's person.

Is this too much to ask?

14 posted on 12/15/2003 8:19:29 PM PST by dasboot
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To: supercat
Saddam will be turned over to the Iraqis in due course. He will be executed. Who knows by what means, the Iraqis have used so many. My guess is hanging.
15 posted on 12/15/2003 8:31:02 PM PST by luvbach1
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To: saquin
Illegal war, Doug from Upland's butt.
17 posted on 12/15/2003 8:38:43 PM PST by doug from upland (Hillary would get 100% of the Islamist Terrorist vote)
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To: saquin
the skin was burned off his back, exposing the vertebrae in places

Jesus
18 posted on 12/15/2003 8:51:35 PM PST by Husker24
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To: saquin
For fear of his story leaking out, he told the doctors he was suffering from cancer, although he suspects they never believed him. They treated him anyway, discreetly avoiding any probing questions.

hmm....

When he had recovered, he returned to his family in Iraq,

After all that, he returned? From England?

Does some of this story sound a bit far-fetched to anyone else? Hey, it's not that I doubt Saddam was capable of this sort of thing. But... hmm.... I don't know....

19 posted on 12/15/2003 9:01:42 PM PST by wizardoz ("Let's roll!" ........................................................ "We got him!")
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To: Terriergal
No, I think it would be heaven for him to see Saddam punished...
20 posted on 12/15/2003 9:07:24 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (The Guns of Brixton)
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