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Social Security checks could go south of border
The Arizona Republic ^ | Dec. 10, 2003 | Sergio Bustos

Posted on 12/10/2003 5:07:46 PM PST by yonif

Edited on 05/07/2004 5:22:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON - U.S. and Mexican officials are discussing an agreement that would allow millions of Mexicans to return home and still collect U.S. Social Security benefits.

The controversial proposal that could transfer hundreds of millions of dollars in Social Security payments south of the border has riled some Republican lawmakers. They worry that it could reward scores of undocumented Mexican immigrants with a U.S. pension, draining the country's Social Security trust fund at a time when its future solvency is in doubt.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; bush43; enoughalready; heritagefoundation; immigrantlist; mexico; ronpaul; socialsecurity
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1 posted on 12/10/2003 5:07:46 PM PST by yonif
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To: yonif
If it's a one-way trip it's not a bad deal
2 posted on 12/10/2003 5:19:18 PM PST by thoughtomator (The U.N. is a terrorist organization)
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To: yonif
I'm moving to Mexico!
3 posted on 12/10/2003 5:21:34 PM PST by lonestar (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: yonif
Let's just outlaw borders, all sit in a circle holding hands and sing kumbaya.
4 posted on 12/10/2003 5:21:39 PM PST by Az Joe
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To: yonif
Seems as though Ron Paul is about the only elected official that really see the flaw in this.

Yeah, they might pay into the system .... with a forged SS card...they are here "illegally" (which for those in democrap party) means they broke the law and are still breaking the law!!! arrest 'em, deport 'em and make janet reno patrol the border topless, wearing a thong to discourage any of them from trying to sneak back
6 posted on 12/10/2003 5:39:25 PM PST by cajun-jack
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To: yonif
Maybe it's time to annex Mexico and add a few more states to the union.

-PJ

7 posted on 12/10/2003 5:42:50 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: yonif
The interesting thing about this is that we have literally millions of American veterans who are 100% disabled by the services and/or Veterans' Administration, yet Social Security denies them benefits...

What, in God's name, is wrong with this picture, this government...this nation?

8 posted on 12/10/2003 5:47:06 PM PST by NMFXSTC
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To: Political Junkie Too
This has been my assertion all along. We are supporting this country without the benefit of being able to access their natural resources. Like you said, annex it and add a few states. Sure would be nice to take a short drive from southern AZ and be at a beach and still remain in the US;-)
9 posted on 12/10/2003 5:49:54 PM PST by cupcakes
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To: cupcakes
Of course, the BIG downside is that the extra Senators will probably be Democrats (and the flag will start looking crowded with all those stars). However, the upside is that it eliminates the illegal immigrant problem (the hispanic ones).

-PJ

10 posted on 12/10/2003 5:52:19 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: yonif
Come here illegally; stay for 19 months; then file for SS disability ("a bad back") claiming that you worked under the table for 18 months and your EEEEEEVIL Republican employer didn't pay SS taxes for you.

Retire to Mexico and make babies with a cute 16-year-old senorita - even if you are old, the parents will be OK with the marriage because you have the Estados Unidos sending you money every month.

11 posted on 12/10/2003 5:53:09 PM PST by ikka
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To: Political Junkie Too
Maybe it's time to annex Mexico and add a few more states to the union.

Got my vote.

As a great man once said......

The bombing starts in 5 minutes.

LVM

12 posted on 12/10/2003 6:08:24 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Thunder was his engine and White Lightning was his load....)
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To: yonif
International = United Nations
13 posted on 12/10/2003 6:14:31 PM PST by ask
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To: cupcakes
You can already drive south from Arizona and get to a beach where the locale and local inhabitants looks similar to Arizona with water. Why annex them when you already have them?

Now, if you want to do some horse trading, I'll throw in the whole of Washington, D. C. and the inhabitants within for the most desolate state in Mexico and probably put up some boot besides. Of course, this would have to be approved by the Bush and Fox. By the way, you do know what happens when Fox hoist leg on bush? I thought you did.

Monana, Amigo!

14 posted on 12/10/2003 6:20:42 PM PST by meenie (Remember the Alamo! Alamo! One more time. Alamo!!!)
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To: meenie
Its damned hard to deny that there are a lot of people in this country who seem to want to destroy it and who do nothing but dream up ways to hasten the day.
15 posted on 12/10/2003 6:30:10 PM PST by TalBlack ("Tal, no song means anything without someone else...")
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To: cajun-jack
Seems as though Ron Paul is about the only elected official that really see the flaw in this.

Final approval of any U.S.-Mexican "totalization" agreement is up to the Republican-controlled Congress. The Bush administration supports such an accord as a way to improve U.S.-Mexican relations.

Ron Paul is one of the few conservatives left in Washington D.C., it won't be too long before we have two liberal parties and no conservative party left.

We have a 400 billion medicare bill from so-called conservatives, a 800 billion spending bill from so-called conservatives, and now Social Security for illegal aliens from so-called conservatives. True Reagan conservatives should be outraged, but instead they are supporting these so-called conservatives, and supporting the destruction of any notion of limited government in the USA.

16 posted on 12/11/2003 6:09:52 AM PST by jgrubbs
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To: Political Junkie Too
That would be good, but then you would have the libs saying that there is more poverty now then before, that we need to add them to unemployment, wellfare, etc. Just think what that would require tax wise. Plus, you would have to go and get rid of all the Mexican police and military and replace them with new ones that are not corrupt.
17 posted on 12/11/2003 7:08:31 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: Political Junkie Too
No it wouldn't they would just come from Central America into the new states that used to be Mexico.
18 posted on 12/11/2003 7:10:12 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: yonif
I think it's already a well known fact that the average illegal Mexican receives far more taxpayer financed welfare style services that far exceed any $ they've allegedly paid into the system. They do NOT deserve one damn more dime of our tax $!
19 posted on 12/11/2003 7:18:23 AM PST by american spirit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION = NATIONAL SUICIDE)
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To: lonestar
No way will Bush sign this. I would consider it borderline treason. Selling out the American Citizens welfare to an foreign government. No one asked undocumented workers to come to America. If they had a problem with it they could pack their bags and move back.
20 posted on 12/11/2003 7:37:06 AM PST by Orange1998
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