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TIME Exclusive: IRAQ INSURGENTS SHOW OFF FIREPOWER TO TIME
Time ^ | Sunday, Dec. 07, 2003 | Brian Bennett and Michael Ware

Posted on 12/07/2003 11:39:02 AM PST by At _War_With_Liberals

TIME Interviews Dozens of Insurgents and Disgruntled Iraqis, Attends Resistance Meetings and Views Videotape of Attacks Against Coalition Forces Guerillas Trying to Drive U.S. Casualties So High That American Public Turns Against The War – ‘They Could Succeed,’ Pentagon Official Says

New York -- U.S. intelligence experts now believe the Iraq insurgents are a volatile mix of groups and free-lancers who include loyalists of the former ruling Baath Party, Fedayeen militiamen, former Republican Guard and intelligence agents, foreign jihadis, professional terrorists, paid common criminals and disaffected Iraqis, TIME's Brian Bennett and Michael Ware report from Iraq.

Over the past three months, TIME has interviewed dozens of insurgents and disgruntled Iraqis, attended resistance meetings and viewed videotape of attacks against coalition forces. Often reporters have been required to submit to blindfolds, circuitous drives by night, vehicle switching, meetings that rarely occurred in the same place and, of course, frequent personal searches for phones and tracking devices. (At no time did TIME reporters have prior information about attacks.) As seen from the inside, the insurgency looks as complex and diverse an enemy as the U.S. could possibly face.

Showing Firepower: Inside Attack on Baghdad Airport: At the modest farmhouse of a fellow member of his network of insurgents one recent evening, Abu Ali—the nom de guerre he has chosen—welcomes seven fighters into a room lined with worn sofas. Checking his watch, he abruptly rises from a sofa, throws on a woolen overcoat and orders everyone, including the reporter, to move out. The men pile into three cars and tear off in different directions. For more than an hour they cruise near the launch site until all looks clear. Then a small team walks into a flat field to aim a rack of homemade launching tubes toward the lights of the Baghdad airport, home to U.S. chopper squadrons, supply units and the CIA-led Iraq Survey Group, less than two miles away. The insurgents load three air-to-air rockets they have modified to launch from the ground, flash a signal with car headlights and disappear. A second team creeps in to fire the volley, while a security detail armed with assault rifles and machine guns forms a perimeter. Beyond these fighters, according to the cell’s security chief, a ring of men with shoulder-fired surface-to-air missiles and rocket-propelled grenades is watching for U.S. helicopters that might try to stop them, TIME reports.

Bolder, Better Organized -- “They Could Succeed”: Attacks against coalition forces have grown bolder, better organized and broader based. A double ambush last week in Samarra “was the biggest, most sophisticated so far,” says a senior intelligence official in Washington. As a Pentagon official sees it: “They know they can’t beat us militarily, but they think they might be able to defeat us politically.” The guerrillas are trying to drive U.S. casualties so high that the American public turns against the war, he says, adding, "They could succeed."

"Bring Back Saddam": Under the apparent leadership of experienced former Saddam loyalists, the resistance network is growing more organized. Leaders of small cells that once acted independently now share intelligence and tactics and divide up targets. "They’re colonels, lieutenant colonels and majors who are really the hard-core loyalists," U.S. Major General Raymond Ordierno, commander of the 4th Infantry Division, tells TIME.

"Allah is Great": Not all the rank-and-file fighters are die-hard Saddam supporters. Many are thought to be devout Iraqi Muslims who believe that fighting “infidel” occupiers is a Koranic imperative. Tensions exist between former military officers and paid militia, called fedayeen in insurgent circles, and the Muslim fighters who label themselves mujahedin, or holy warrior. U.S. officials believe most of them then carry out missions under the orders of Saddam loyalists. "They use the fundamentalists as cannon fodder," especially for lethal attacks on soft targets involving car bombs, say the officials. "Suicide bombers are generally not Iraqis or former regime types." Abu Abdullah, who earns his living building houses along the Euphrates River , says, "Islam tells us that no one should occupy our land. The Koran allows us to kill anyone to defend our country."

The Terrorists -- "Down with the U.S.": Senior U.S. intelligence officials say a small number of dedicated terrorists slipped into the country just after the U.S. invasion. "They are burrowing way down, looking for opportunities to strike for maximum political impact," contends Senator Jack Reed, a Democrat who toured Iraq with colleague Hillary Clinton.

Mock Funerals for Soldiers Training to be Suicide Bombers: Some intelligence officials point a finger at Ansar al-Islam, a small Kurdish terror group that operated out of the northern mountains of Iraq against local Kurd rulers before the U.S. invasion. Intelligence officials say some of the highly trained men slipped away to regroup in Iran. Before the war, Ansar soldiers training to be suicide bombers were given elaborate mock funerals to prepare them mentally for their martyrdom.

How Bush Administration Portrays Insurgency: The Bush Administration, for its part, wants to portray the insurgency as mainly homegrown. That allows Washington to claim, as it repeatedly does, that when the die-hards run out of men and munitions the insurgency will dissipate. It also allows Bush to avoid the charge that the war actually increased danger to the U.S. by stirring up a hornet’s nest of terrorism. Yet the Administration’s greatest fear is that the rebellion will get too local if the general population turns on the occupiers. "We minimize their impact at our peril," says a Pentagon official.

New Effort to Blunt Insurgency: In a new effort to blunt the insurgency, the U.S. Central Command plans to form an Iraqi quick-reaction force that can identify and counter the guerillas better than the U.S. can.

What Really Happened in Samarra? In a companion story about the Nov. 30 battle near Samarra, where U.S. officials reported they had killed 54 Iraqi fighters, Bennett reports the dispute over the battle’s body count bears echoes of Vietnam, where casualty figures were routinely inflated. The U.S. has not been giving out such numbers in Iraq, but seemed eager to publicize this battle’s hefty total. Samarra hospital officials still insist that only eight Iraqis were killed, and last Monday afternoon TIME saw just two bodies lying in the hospital morgue: an elderly man and a middle-aged woman, both with Iranian identity cards. U.S. commanders stand by numbers they say were tallied from precise after-battle reports. Besides, says Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt, the Army’s deputy operations director, "I can’t imagine why the enemy would want to bring a dead body to the hospital."


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aidandcomfort; antiamericanism; aoltimewbturnercnn; bigmedia; enemy; iraq; iraqaftermath; iraqiterrorism; mediabias; terrorism; terrorists; time; timemag; waronterror; wot
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1 posted on 12/07/2003 11:39:02 AM PST by At _War_With_Liberals
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
The insurgents load three air-to-air rockets they have modified to launch from the ground, flash a signal with car headlights and disappear. A second team creeps in to fire the volley, while a security detail armed with assault rifles and machine guns forms a perimeter.

Everybody involved in TIME's little terrorist escapade shoud be in prison. This is to be expected from al-Jazeera. Now TIME is spreading Islamofascist propaganda.

2 posted on 12/07/2003 11:51:28 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (All the good tag lines are taken......)
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To: At _War_With_Liberals; NormsRevenge; Pukin Dog; Howlin; FairOpinion
Look at these snotty , traitorous dirtbags! They'll next go out and participate in the murder of GIs or Iraqi civilians and say it is jounalism..The swine , utter, low crawling swine.
3 posted on 12/07/2003 11:55:10 AM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Can you BELIEVE this article? Talk about propagandizing for the enemy and shilling for progressives!

This is an all "Time" low.
4 posted on 12/07/2003 11:55:42 AM PST by At _War_With_Liberals
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
(At no time did TIME reporters have prior information about attacks.)
(snip)
Showing Firepower: Inside Attack on Baghdad Airport: At the modest farmhouse of a fellow member of his network of insurgents one recent evening, Abu Ali—the nom de guerre he has chosen—welcomes seven fighters into a room lined with worn sofas. Checking his watch, he abruptly rises from a sofa, throws on a woolen overcoat and orders everyone, including the reporter, to move out. The men pile into three cars and tear off in different directions. For more than an hour they cruise near the launch site until all looks clear. Then a small team walks into a flat field to aim a rack of homemade launching tubes toward the lights of the Baghdad airport, home to U.S. chopper squadrons, supply units and the CIA-led Iraq Survey Group, less than two miles away. The insurgents load three air-to-air rockets they have modified to launch from the ground, flash a signal with car headlights and disappear. A second team creeps in to fire the volley, while a security detail armed with assault rifles and machine guns forms a perimeter. Beyond these fighters, according to the cell’s security chief, a ring of men with shoulder-fired surface-to-air missiles and rocket-propelled grenades is watching for U.S. helicopters that might try to stop them, TIME reports.


Oh no, they just went along for the ride.
Hang 'em.
5 posted on 12/07/2003 11:58:54 AM PST by tet68
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To: tet68
This at least is ground for revoking their credentials inside Iraq. Seems to be the Justice Department should also start an investigation.

6 posted on 12/07/2003 12:02:37 PM PST by Anti-McGovern
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To: tet68
I wouldn't be surprised if TIME paid them under the table.

I can just picture the reporters kissing their ass and telling them how noble their cause is, how their real enemy is Bush, how they have the support of the Progressives, how the WoT is illegal, how Bush is a Nazi, how Muslims are the victims of War crimes in Guantanamo, how they should keep it up, because together they can end the illegal US occupation... etc, etc.

They share the same goals.
7 posted on 12/07/2003 12:04:55 PM PST by At _War_With_Liberals
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
Bennett reports the dispute over the battle’s body count bears echoes of Vietnam, where casualty figures were routinely inflated.

No, what REALLY echoes of Vietnam is Time's feverishly anti-American reporting.

8 posted on 12/07/2003 12:05:40 PM PST by denydenydeny
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To: denydenydeny
No, what REALLY echoes of Vietnam is Time's feverishly anti-American reporting.

Looks like TIME is following CNN's "Blood For Interviews" policy that CNN
had in gaining access to Saddam and his buddies for news reports.
9 posted on 12/07/2003 12:13:01 PM PST by VOA
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
This is advocacy journalism taken to its logical extreme. Like the peaceniks that recently arrived, they are part of a coordinated effort that "somehow" manages to avoid kidnapping and IEDs. That they get away with it is a mockery, and were I a soldier in Iraq, I'd be sorely tempted to make certain that, somehow, they got some action.

OTOH, if this kind of treachery results in some useful intelligence, then by all means let the bastards run all over hell and then nail their sources one by one.

10 posted on 12/07/2003 12:16:15 PM PST by niteowl77 (If you haven't prayed for our troops, please start; if you stopped, then do some catching up.)
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
Looks like aiding and abetting the enemy to me.
11 posted on 12/07/2003 12:16:35 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
I don't relish saying it but, Not a surprise, really.
12 posted on 12/07/2003 12:17:42 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Pan_Yan; Pan_Yans Wife
Blood Boil Alert!!
13 posted on 12/07/2003 12:22:16 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (All the good tag lines are taken......)
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To: gatorbait
Look at some of the actual statements:

"Guerillas Trying to Drive U.S. Casualties So High That American Public Turns Against The War "

(No. MEDIA and their Rat pimps trying to drive casualties so high...)

"Fedayeen militiamen"

(What? The F was the Saddam/Uday version of the Iraqi SS! Instead, they define this Iraqi SS group as 'citizens rising up as a group with arms to overthrow the tyrannical US'. This REALLY set me off. Progressives are anti militia, anti self defense, anti liberty, anti gun...yet PRO all of the aforementioned when used to KILL AMERICAN SOLDIERS fulfilling an unprecedented, extremely difficult mission to protect us all. They have officially taken the position that is moral for Fedayeen to kill soldiers. And the Rat leadership must have OK'ed it.)

"Over the past three months, TIME has interviewed dozens of insurgents and disgruntled Iraqis, attended resistance meetings..."

(No. They met with enemies of the US and aided and abetted their war effort, witholding info that could have killed soldiers and civilians. Calling them by other names does not fly)

"of course, frequent personal searches for phones and tracking devices. (At no time did TIME reporters have prior information about attacks.)"

Since they are on the same side, the killers had no reason to shake them down so thoroughly. Time would not have zotted them anyway. Who is kidding who? This was a meeting of allies, and the reporters were probably treated as such. This BS covers their ass so they can say "We know nothing and were helplessly innocent" when they are interviewed by the military.)

"As seen from the inside, the insurgency looks as complex and diverse an enemy as the U.S. could possibly face."

(Huh? Time has also redefined what is in reality, RAGTAG at best)

"At the modest farmhouse of a fellow member of his network of insurgents one recent evening, Abu Ali—the nom de guerre he has chosen—welcomes seven fighters into a room lined with worn sofas."

(Romanticizing the enemy. How sweet.)

"Then a small team walks into a flat field to aim a rack of homemade launching tubes "

(After all of this hype about the most formidable enemy we could possibly face, this is their example, their 'best shot'?)

""They could succeed."
(If they had a .00001 chance, technically, they 'could' succeed. Probably taken out of context. From all reports I have read, we have been successful this month. Yet Time now conveniently hides the Dec stats, while they endlessly trumpeted the bad Nov stats.)

"Leaders of small cells that once acted independently now share intelligence and tactics and divide up targets. "They’re colonels, lieutenant colonels and majors who are really the hard-core loyalists," "

(Out of context again, implying that the Iraqis have a complete command and communications structure in place. An outright deception. Why don't they mention the command structure that have been arrested so far?)

"Many are thought to be devout Iraqi Muslims who believe that fighting "infidel" occupiers is a Koranic imperative..."Islam tells us that no one should occupy our land. The Koran allows us to kill anyone to defend our country."

( is anyone else sick of leftists in the media showing total respect for Islam, while attacking Chrisianity at every turn? In the ME, it is always, this holy place, this respected holy imam, this holy day. They paint the entire population as observant Muslims too. What they are saying here is that the Iraqis have a religious right and duty to kill us, AS WELL AS the moral right they outlined in earlier paragraphs)


"It also allows Bush to avoid the charge that the war actually increased danger to the U.S."

(There it is! They wrote the story around this conclusion. Bush lies. Bush is incompetent, etc. Speaks for itself.)

"the dispute over the battle’s body count bears echoes of Vietnam, where casualty figures were routinely inflated. "

(Yet another Vietnam analogy. Analogies are always an easy way to mislead- and they make full use of them, stoking Vietnam era sentiment. Why would the govt lie, knowing it would be exposed in a few days?)

"The U.S. has not been giving out such numbers in Iraq, but seemed eager to publicize this battle’s hefty total."

(So why did they make the analagous accusation. To use the 'Vietnam Card'?


This propaganda should serve as a wake up call to us all. The govt has to speak up about this propaganda. It must be revealed to sheeple who will not understand what is really going on here. There is a war at home, and only a few people realize it and/or are willing to do something about it.
14 posted on 12/07/2003 12:47:58 PM PST by At _War_With_Liberals
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To: denydenydeny
'No blood for ionterviews'. Boycott Time. I like that.
15 posted on 12/07/2003 12:49:45 PM PST by At _War_With_Liberals
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
I brought this up to my democrat wife and she was disgusted. I think we could get traction with this.

The action item we should be looking for is that Time reporters be kicked out of the War Zone.
16 posted on 12/07/2003 12:50:30 PM PST by Anti-McGovern
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
Bathists vote Democrat
17 posted on 12/07/2003 12:52:37 PM PST by woofie (there will be a pop quiz on this thread Thursday ...be prepared)
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To: edskid
"OTOH, if this kind of treachery results in some useful intelligence, then by all means let the bastards run all over hell and then nail their sources one by one."

Won't happen. They absolutely went out of their way in the article to say they know nothing, all of their gear was confiscated, they know nothing... it's transparent.

Let's face it. Whatever they DO know, they will hold in confidence. You can take that to the bank.


18 posted on 12/07/2003 12:53:08 PM PST by At _War_With_Liberals
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
Jackals.
19 posted on 12/07/2003 12:53:12 PM PST by Spruce
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
This propaganda should serve as a wake up call to us all. The govt has to speak up about this propaganda. It must be revealed to sheeple who will not understand what is really going on here. There is a war at home, and only a few people realize it and/or are willing to do something about it.
The problem is Time runs all those feel good ads and wraps itself in the 1 st amendment whilst using it as bumwad. Another problem is tha tTime , like the rest, stays on message and keeps hammering it home. I have to laugh when I hear about conservative control of the media.. it's a lie, bold faced and easily disproven, yet it is accepted ,since it is too difficult to bestir oneself away from a Simpsons re run.
20 posted on 12/07/2003 1:02:12 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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