The UN wants to control your computer lead by China and Cuba.
1 posted on
12/06/2003 12:58:45 PM PST by
demlosers
To: demlosers
Yup. On another thread there's "news" that China is #2 behind the USA in internet useage.
2 posted on
12/06/2003 1:02:41 PM PST by
Cobra64
(Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
To: demlosers
"What we are looking at is the future management of the Internet."Replace "management" with "theft", and we have a truthful statement.
3 posted on
12/06/2003 1:05:09 PM PST by
squidly
To: demlosers
TODAY - The UN - Home of Terrorists, Murderers, and Slavers who plot to control the Internet:
"Our leader, Abu Annan, says we don't need no stinking end of terrorism OR slavery
or BOMBINGS or killings of you Saturday or Sunday people.
So why dont you dhimmis just give up, like the French have. Give us your Internet, NOW!!!!"
TOMORROW
4 posted on
12/06/2003 1:07:43 PM PST by
Diogenesis
(If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
To: demlosers
If the rats were in power, they certainly would join with Cuba and China in supressing free speech on the Internet.
Until that sad day I am free to say: "Hillary: You lying, neo-Stalinist, manipulative, shrill, obnoxious, deceitful, trecherous, destructive, hateful, power-mad, dishonest, corrupt, bribe-taking, bribe-giving, traitorous, anti-American, divisive Uber-Shyster!!"
Or anything else I choose to say!
5 posted on
12/06/2003 1:08:35 PM PST by
FormerACLUmember
(A person is only as big as the dream they dare to live.)
To: demlosers
Well, if clinton and Gore were in the White House they'd jump all over this plan. But I don't think Bush will. Bush sent in a very conservative team to represent us at the UN--one of the few places where he really did a good job weeding the clintonoids out of the administration.
One possible outcome is that the internet will break down into spheres of influence or large national domains. China already is mostly cut off from the rest of the net. Countries like China and Cuba want to control their citizens, so they can't afford freedom of access to the internet.
Frankly, the US doesn't really NEED China to be accessible on the net, nice as it might be. Let them go their way if they insist, and we'll go ours. And no doubt there will be a certain amount of hacking and sabotage from both sides.
6 posted on
12/06/2003 1:12:57 PM PST by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: demlosers
What the UN controls the UN will tax...and censor.
To: demlosers
...what is best way to manage what has become a natural resource for all of humanity... This is a perfect example of the socialist paradigm under which these people operate. The internet is nothing like a natural resource, that is, it doesn't simply exist, it was built, and there were costs and issues of ownership attendent to its construction.
The idea here is that wealth isn't created, it merely exists, and it is the function of government to apportion it as if it were a pie. Not even Karl Marx went that far. He, at least, recognized the difference between a true "natural resource" and a manufactured good. But the pie analogy is appropriate - someone has to purchase the ingredients and bake a real pie for these self-appointed guardians of the public good to distribute. To them it just magically appears, and once it's eaten, will once again magically appear.
These idiots have ruined the economies of every rising state they've taken over. And they do want the world, they literally do.
To: demlosers
A controversial plan to grant governments broad controls over the Internet has stolen the spotlight of a United Nations conference on IT next week, where China and Cuba will be among its strongest supporters. China and Cuba, eh?
Let's see, the 2 strongest proponents of Government control are the 2 strongest proponents of central control over the internet.
Why am I not surprised?
Lest the impossible happens and Dubya' gets ousted by one of the fab 7, it ain't gonna happen with our support.
11 posted on
12/06/2003 1:41:59 PM PST by
EGPWS
To: demlosers
The U.N. is certifiably nuts. Im not losing any sleep over this. Our congress crooks who vote for this will be out of their crooked jobs immediately.
To: demlosers
All actions of this conference can be safely ignored. The UN has
zero authority over the Internet and never will no matter how hard they try. If they attempt something, hackers will be able to route around it within days at the worst, and often within HOURS. As an example, there are already a number of "alternative" web domain services out there, and they've existed for years. Anyone can join in on them just by dropping a couple of extra IP addresses into your own PC's DNS server settings. (If you don't know what this means, trust me when I say that even the most inexperienced computer user can make the necessary change in about 90 seconds.) So even if the UN or some other freakish governmental organization
were to find a way take over the big domains like .com, .net, etc, we could all bypass them with practically zero effort.
And no matter what other evil scheme they could dream up, we could find a way to bypass it, assuming they ever found a way to "obtain power" in the first place, which is pretty much impossible in itself.
The Internet is not a physical object; it is nothing more than an agglomeration of individual computers joined together BY CHOICE. And if I don't like what my ISP is doing, I can disconnect the cable modem right now, call you up on the phone and work out a way to connect our computers directly. Then we could add our friends to our little connection, and grow our own mini-internet from there, completely separate from the Big Evil UNternet.
Like everything else the UN does, it's all talk, no action. Let 'em whine.
22 posted on
12/06/2003 3:33:13 PM PST by
Timesink
(I'm not a big fan of electronic stuff, you know? Beeps ... beeps freak me out. They're bad.)
To: demlosers
While ICANN's oversight has been confined to the decidedly technical matters... the group has been criticised roundly for adopting a pro-business approach that neglects the developing world.
Every country manages its own domain - developing or not. If there is neglect somewhere, it is internal to that country. Reuters is as obtuse as ever on the specific issues under dispute. I assume, someone is asking for subsidies and ability to block traffic. I would say - block this!
24 posted on
12/06/2003 4:01:53 PM PST by
singsong
(Demoralization kils first the civilization and THEN the people.)
To: demlosers
Let's see any of those 3rd-world morons invent something besides new diseases,
F |_| C K the UN !
25 posted on
12/06/2003 4:16:32 PM PST by
jonatron
To: demlosers; hellinahandcart; countrydummy; NYC GOP Chick
FCUK China and Cuba!
Long live FReedom!
27 posted on
12/06/2003 4:50:43 PM PST by
sauropod
(I believe Tawana! Sharpton for Prez! Slap the Donkey or Spank the Monkey? Your Choice)
To: demlosers
The UN wants to control your computer lead by China and Cuba.
Yep, the fine folks at the UN, that raided their own cafeteria like a bunch
of druken frat boys (apologies to any "Greeks" in the forum) at the first chance.
If they'll f--- up something as simple as a cafeteria, I shudder to think what these
well-dressed monsters would do to the net.
33 posted on
12/06/2003 9:45:34 PM PST by
VOA
To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
where China and Cuba will be among its strongest supporters.Why am I not surprised?
The only upside I can see to this is that the "next" meeting after this won't be until 2005.
Just damn.
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35 posted on
12/07/2003 5:13:50 AM PST by
mhking
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